Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)

[calia]

Ahhh -- if only this game of roulette between Chad and his team were playing out with one of our division rivals....

[GTripp0012]

One 1st is way too much.

He's not on the "trading block" until you can get him at a reduced price, like a 2nd round pick. If he's not on the trading block, why in the heck are we trying to trade for him?!?!?!

Those deals never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever work out in our favor.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

One 1st is way too much.

He's not on the "trading block" until you can get him at a reduced price, like a 2nd round pick. If he's not on the trading block, why in the heck are we trying to trade for him?!?!?!

Those deals never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever work out in our favor.

I agree. I just finished listening to John Clayton say that the Bengals will not not not trade CJ no matter what, and Marvin Lewis is basically daring him to be a man, live up to his word, and sit out the season.

I think the Bengals are treating this entire CJ fiasco as one big temper tantrum. They're hoping that once he realizes all his crying, pouting, and foot stomping is getting him no where, once he realizes his $8M/yr salary and QB are both damn good, then he'll eventually tuck his tail and report to the team.

On a side note, not only did Cincy nix our offer for CJ, but they have apparently called Philly and Dallas and told them to not even bother making an offer. Looks like Stinko will either be playing for the Bengals or playing couch potato this fall.

[Campbell17]

I want ocho cinco but we need to make thet 1st round pick

[MTK]

LOL how is CJ over the hill??

I'll take his 90+ catches and 1400 yards if that's over the hill any day.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Am I the only person who has a huge problem with this price? I don't mind the first this year, but NEXT year?!?! That's absolutely going to set this team back.

If we end up where we're picking 25-26 next year then I would deal with it, but I really expect some growing pains this season.

[KB24]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Am I the only person who has a huge problem with this price? I don't mind the first this year, but NEXT year?!?! That's absolutely going to set this team back.

If we end up where we're picking 25-26 next year then I would deal with it, but I really expect some growing pains this season.

No, you're not. It's a terrible price to pay for a team that desperately needs every draft picks as possible to stay competitive on the field.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Am I the only person who has a huge problem with this price? I don't mind the first this year, but NEXT year?!?! That's absolutely going to set this team back.

If we end up where we're picking 25-26 next year then I would deal with it, but I really expect some growing pains this season.

Once again it's a conditional 3rd rounder next year, not a guaranteed 1st.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Once again it's a conditional 3rd rounder next year, not a guaranteed 1st.

:smashfrea :frusty:

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Once again it's a conditional 3rd rounder next year, not a guaranteed 1st.

So that's two potential starters for one?? Either way it's a bad deal and I'm glad Cinn saved us from the FO's stupidity. That's why we have no depth cause we always do these two for one deals.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So that's two potential starters for one?? Either way it's a bad deal and I'm glad Cinn saved us from the FO's stupidity. That's why we have no depth cause we always do these two for one deals.

the key word there is POTENTIAL starters, you dont know what your going to get with the draft, CJ is a proven player

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

the key word there is POTENTIAL starters, you dont know what your going to get with the draft, CJ is a proven player

So are Chris Cooley and Laron Laundry. One's a probowler and one is a future pro bowler and both are home grown.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Very true, but I still think even the possibility of giving up two first round picks is a super steep price.

I really like CJ, but unless our offense totally EXPLODES with him there, I'm going to feel really slighted as a fan. Now, a first and third next year I'm fine with, but that would mean he didn't meet those performance initiatives...

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Very true, but I still think even the possibility of giving up two first round picks is a super steep price.

I really like CJ, but unless our offense totally EXPLODES with him there, I'm going to feel really slighted as a fan. Now, a first and third next year I'm fine with, but that would mean he didn't meet those performance initiatives...

Apparently the performance incentives were absurd, and they weren't just individual incentives, they also had to do with the performance of the team. So basically it would be very unlikely the conditional pick would have turned into a 1st rounder.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Very true, but I still think even the possibility of giving up two first round picks is a super steep price.

I really like CJ, but unless our offense totally EXPLODES with him there, I'm going to feel really slighted as a fan. Now, a first and third next year I'm fine with, but that would mean he didn't meet those performance initiatives...

The conditions would probably be pretty steep for it to escalate to a 1st, I think SS speculated the Skins would have to make the NFC Championship and CJ would have to break the all time TD record.