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08-26-2008, 07:58 PM | #91 | |
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By the way, in terms of exiting Iraq, it looks like the time table is somewhere around 2011. |
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08-26-2008, 10:29 PM | #93 |
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Of course, if you put Bush in the class of Hoover, Buchanan and Harding - We're looking damn good for '08.
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08-27-2008, 11:04 AM | #94 |
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His "100 years" was in reference to how long we'd have troop presence there. We still have troops stationed in Japan, Germany, Korean border, Central America everywhere we've fought from WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam...etc. Examining history, he's most likely right. No one is picketing and demanding withdrawl from those places? Why not? Because President Bush wasn't in charge of those conflicts. Too many people, especially the anti-war crowd lets there blind and immature hatred for the President overshadow common sense, history and current events. If it is tied to President Bush, they automatically hate the idea. Open a book and learn some history. Oh, and stay engaged with the current events.
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08-27-2008, 11:07 AM | #96 |
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That's not Republican ingnorance your just too busy consentrating on the 4 G's the things that all Republicans hold so deer.
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08-27-2008, 11:13 AM | #97 | |
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08-27-2008, 11:30 AM | #98 |
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Maybe that's the meat of his "Change" platform? He's going to lock down a few new states?
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The majority of his short time in the Senate consisted of voting "present" so he wouldn't have to take a stand. His "glorious" speeches are like sermons, speaking in platitudes of "hope" and "change". He refused to debate Clinton late in the primaries and is limiting his debates with McCain to only 3. Why? Probably because he's a horrible speaker without a teleprompter. He's a talented speech reader, but stutters and rambles until an idea arises in debates and interviews. Barack Obama's policy switches are giving the Left whiplash The Democratic nominee's policy pivots are causing anguish among liberals. He is no fool - Barack Obama's policy switches are giving the Left whiplash | Gerard Baker - Times Online An example of one of his many lies: Townhall.com - Printer Friendly Quote:
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Speaking of his website, it was reported before some debates that he removed and/or changed many issues that may have caused criticism. He's not a revolutionary candidate. He's more of the same, possibly a worse than usual politician. Bonus: for everyone who claims that Republicans are "in the pocket of 'Big Oil'" - Report: Exxon Execs Gave More to Obama | The Trail | washingtonpost.com Another VERY interesting and alarming read: American Thinker: Obama's Foreign Donors: The media averts its eyes
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08-27-2008, 11:39 AM | #100 |
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Being the socialist he is, he's probably planning on splitting up some of the larger states like Texas so that land is distributed more evenly!
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08-27-2008, 11:52 AM | #101 | |
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Those are good talking points, but if Obama has indeed changed positions weekly, give me two. FISA, yes, he switched his positions. And I won't get into the nuance of the bill because it's very complicated. But for the sake of argument, yes, he switched on FISA. That's the position that gave the Left pause, if any at all. In terms of the war in Iraq, both the current Administration and the Iraqi government are most definitely leaning toward Obama's withdrawal timeline, which he proposed from the very start of this election and has maintained throughout. So no switch there. No flip and certainly no flop. He cited sixteen months at the start and his rhetoric has changed one iota. Now, if he get's in office and things warrant staying longer, should he hold fast to sixteen months for the saking of keeping his word, that would be foolish and a display of poor leadership. But based on the current conditions, as Obama sees them, sixteen months is probably a good starting place to begin to draw down. Voting present in the Illinois Senate is not simply "present" or ducking responsibilty as some would imply. This is funny how it came up during the Primary, but no one cared to investigate what present actually means in the Senate. The Illinois Senate operates quite differently than most state legislations in the United States. www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/opinion/16mikva.html Speaking of missing votes, did you know that John McCain has missed more votes this year than any member in the U.S. Senate? Obama's speeches, take it or leave it. Personally I don't think people being inspired for change and hoping for a new direction in our country is a bad thing. Especially when over 80% of Americans think we're on the wrong track. What, should we feel the opposite way? But I get what you're saying, you can do without the all the hype. Or stylistically, you're not feeling Barack. I can respect that. |
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08-27-2008, 01:24 PM | #103 |
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two flip flops?
FISA, public financing. next? |
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