Update: McCain Selects Gov. Sarah Palin as Running Mate

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Buster

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Obama released this statement, "She is not the change we need."


This man can not put a rational thought together.

The script goes something like this:

Obama: "We need change! Change, and hope!"

General Audience: "Sounds good! But what kind of change? What are we changing TO?"

Obama: "Just change. And hope too, don't forget the hope."

Liberals: "Can't argue with that, change is good! Long as we go somewhere, who cares where it is, right?"

Conservatives: "Change is scary. That nice looking old white man looks more reliable."

Obama: "pssst...change! (and hope)"

McCain: Unavailable. Currently having some soldering work done on his iron lung.

Obama: "We're hopeful FOR change! And the change will bring us hope!"

General Audience: "I don't know, still not sure what's changing or what it's changing to.

Liberals: "YEAH! We'll just hope that the change takes us where we want to go! We'll hammer out the specifics later."

Conservatives: Unavailable. Too embarrassed to comment.

McCain: "I'll give you change! How does a 44-year old woman as VP sound?!"

Obama: "Um...well, we don't really want THAT kind of change."

General Audience: "So what kind of change is good?"

Obama: "Don't know, but we know it's not that kind of change. It's change, just different."

Liberals: "Woohoo! Change! And hope!"

Conservatives: "Yowza! She's hot AND she's got a gun!"

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by mheisig

The script goes something like this:

Obama: "We need change! Change, and hope!"

General Audience: "Sounds good! But what kind of change? What are we changing TO?"

Obama: "Just change. And hope too, don't forget the hope."

Liberals: "Can't argue with that, change is good! Long as we go somewhere, who cares where it is, right?"

Conservatives: "Change is scary. That nice looking old white man looks more reliable."

Obama: "pssst...change! (and hope)"

McCain: Unavailable. Currently having some soldering work done on his iron lung.

Obama: "We're hopeful FOR change! And the change will bring us hope!"

General Audience: "I don't know, still not sure what's changing or what it's changing to.

Liberals: "YEAH! We'll just hope that the change takes us where we want to go! We'll hammer out the specifics later."

Conservatives: Unavailable. Too embarrassed to comment.

McCain: "I'll give you change! How does a 44-year old woman as VP sound?!"

Obama: "Um...well, we don't really want THAT kind of change."

General Audience: "So what kind of change is good?"

Obama: "Don't know, but we know it's not that kind of change. It's change, just different."

Liberals: "Woohoo! Change! And hope!"

Conservatives: "Yowza! She's hot AND she's got a gun!"

Greatest. Post. Ever.

[FRPLG]

I've never understood what Condi Rice did to be so derided?

And Colin Powell gets no asterisk from me. If he had been given a larger voice in Bush's administration he'd have been a superstar. I love the guy and see Bush's failure to use him as a resource over Rumsfeld as his biggest political screwup. Powel is infinitely more capable of guiding, leading and making the right decisions than Rummy ever was.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I've never understood what Condi Rice did to be so derided?

And Colin Powell gets no asterisk from me. If he had been given a larger voice in Bush's administration he'd have been a superstar. I love the guy and see Bush's failure to use him as a resource over Rumsfeld as his biggest political screwup. Powel is infinitely more capable of guiding, leading and making the right decisions than Rummy ever was.

Secretary Rice worked during the Bush Presidency, so she must be evil!

She had an incredible background and life experience and is one of the most educated women ON THE PLANET. She also doesn't back down from dictators and is very skilled in diplomacy to avoid conflicts. She would make a great President if she wanted the job.

But, since she worked for this President, she must be destroyed. If she worked under Clinton and we criticized her, we'd be called racists AND sexists.

Ditto for Powell. I read his autobiography about 7 years ago and was VERY impressed.

[Lady Brave]

You guys shouldn't be so quick to chastise Hess for her views. Though our reasons differ at bit, I'm not crazy about a female candidate for President/VP either. My views are probably more religious based, which I won't debate anyone over. Let's just say I prefer a man to be in the highest positions of authority.

[FRPLG]

I still can't exactly grasp exactly what change he is referring to. I am not talking about specifics of policies. I'd just like to have a clear defintion of what "change" is to him. It can be simple or complicated but at last define it. He is so vague with the "change" talk. Hell he could actually get me to vote for him if his idea of change was to actually fix Washington but I don't think his idea of change and mine are compatible.

[Dirtbag59]

Why is Tina Fey running for VP?

[Schneed10]

Come on though, people. I know this announcement, and the Biden announcement are both hot off the presses, so it gives people something to talk about.

But in the end, does anybody really vote based on who the VP is? I know I don't. Even when a candidate is 72 years old, I still don't. The probability of McCain dying in office is not that high (ask me again if he's running at age 76, I might feel differently).

The guy is in great shape.

In the end, you all know you're going to vote based on Obama vs McCain. If you're an Obama fan, the biggest reason to vote for him is not going to be "because McCain might die and leave a 44 year old with little experience in charge." You're going to vote for Obama because you want us out of Iraq, or you want tax changes, or you want changes in foreign policy.

Palin and Biden don't change much. This is still about McCain vs Obama. I don't think either VP pick is going to significantly sway the vote.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Come on though, people. I know this announcement, and the Biden announcement are both hot off the presses, so it gives people something to talk about.

But in the end, does anybody really vote based on who the VP is? I know I don't. Even when a candidate is 72 years old, I still don't. The probability of McCain dying in office is not that high (ask me again if he's running at age 76, I might feel differently).

The guy is in great shape.

In the end, you all know you're going to vote based on Obama vs McCain. If you're an Obama fan, the biggest reason to vote for him is not going to be "because McCain might die and leave a 44 year old with little experience in charge." You're going to vote for Obama because you want us out of Iraq, or you want tax changes, or you want changes in foreign policy.

Palin and Biden don't change much. This is still about McCain vs Obama. I don't think either VP pick is going to significantly sway the vote.

Pretty much sums it up right here.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Come on though, people. I know this announcement, and the Biden announcement are both hot off the presses, so it gives people something to talk about.

But in the end, does anybody really vote based on who the VP is? I know I don't. Even when a candidate is 72 years old, I still don't. The probability of McCain dying in office is not that high (ask me again if he's running at age 76, I might feel differently).

The guy is in great shape.

In the end, you all know you're going to vote based on Obama vs McCain. If you're an Obama fan, the biggest reason to vote for him is not going to be "because McCain might die and leave a 44 year old with little experience in charge." You're going to vote for Obama because you want us out of Iraq, or you want tax changes, or you want changes in foreign policy.

Palin and Biden don't change much. This is still about McCain vs Obama. I don't think either VP pick is going to significantly sway the vote.

I disagree. I think this is the one time in history the VP is the most important choice for the campaigns. I pray Obama isn't assassinated, and I also pray McCain doesn't expire.. but I think both could very well happen, making the VP VERY important.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

I disagree. I think this is the one time in history the VP is the most important choice for the campaigns. I pray Obama isn't assassinated, and I also pray McCain doesn't expire.. but I think both could very well happen, making the VP VERY important.

Those are both emotional/superficial thought reactions though, there's not a whole lot of thought behind it.

The probability of a successful assassination attempt on Obama is so small. I get that he's black and there are crazies out there who may try it, but it's insanely hard to get it done. The secret service is incredibly good at their jobs; and they do an awful lot more than just jump in front of bullets.

As for McCain, check his health records. He's in tremendous shape, despite the previous bouts with melanoma. While melanoma can be deadly, and you'll hear about that in the media, it is easily treatable and near harmless if detected in time. Given that he sees a dermatologist regularly, the chances are nil that skin cancer will be his downfall. There's no sign of heart trouble, no sign of orthopedic, nervous system, or muscular problems. The guy's in great shape and can easily handle four years.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

As for McCain, check his health records. He's in tremendous shape, despite the previous bouts with melanoma. While melanoma can be deadly, and you'll hear about that in the media, it is easily treatable and near harmless if detected in time. Given that he sees a dermatologist regularly, the chances are nil that skin cancer will be his downfall. There's no sign of heart trouble, no sign of orthopedic, nervous system, or muscular problems. The guy's in great shape and can easily handle four years.

Strangely, this feels like I'm making the case for trading for Jason Taylor.

Yeah he's old, but check his health records, he's fine! LOL

[SmootSmack]

I think after Cheney a lot of people are more interested now in who the next VP might be. For me, I've always found it intriguing since Mondale chose Ferraro.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think after Cheney a lot of people are more interested now in who the next VP might be. For me, I've always found it intriguing since Mondale chose Ferraro.

Does it prominently factor in deciding your vote?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Does it prominently factor in deciding your vote?

Prominently? No. A little? Sure

I wasn't, for example, thrilled with the idea of Romney. Though I wouldn't have had as big a problem with him as President ironically. Something about him tells me he can't be a #2 guy