RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

ST would have made a HUGE difference. He was our best playmaker on "D".

Yes, and if he were here, he would consume opponents with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightening from his arse.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Angry

Yes, and if he were here, he would consume opponents with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightening from his arse.

"Ay, I AM William Wallace"

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

"Ay, I AM William Wallace"

The good Lord says he can get me out of this mess, but He's pretty sure...you're f***ed.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

ST would have made a HUGE difference. He was our best playmaker on "D".

thanks 53. The point I was trying to make was we had a elite D in the making with him which would put a little less pressure on O. So FO was on the right track in some ways that we are not considering. He was a huge loss. Obviously

[Dirtbag59]

I don't know if we really have an "elite" D. Though this is probably more a matter of perception. My perception is that we were more of a very good D, who's numbers might have been better because our offense didn't really create a sense of urgency from our opponents.

To me though the elite D's this year belonged to the Titans, Steelers, and Ravens. Defenses that not only stopped people but destroyed them. Our D was more of a "stop you" kind of defense, which isn't exactly a bad thing, but it's obvious that we're not the type of team that can win 10 or 11 games with our D. We need at least a top 15 offense to supplement them, which is pretty good when you think about it, but teams like those I mentioned above were able to get over 10 wins with offenses ranked 21 (Ten), 22 (Pit), and 18 (Bal). We were 19th in total offense for anyone who wants to know.

Side Note: 2,400th post FTW

[Soup's Uncle]

Just having Sean Taylor would have allowed our other bomb playmaker (Landry) to play his natural song safety position and blow some people up.

[SmootSmack]

The friendship between Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato is sooooo overblown, VC was actually probably better friends with Gerald Snyder than with Cerrato.

And Snyder's "meddling" in team affairs is overblown as well, especially in relation to other owners' "meddling" with their teams.

But ultimately it doesn't matter. Ultimately, VC just has to be removed from any football-related decision making. Not so much because of what he has and hasn't accomplished, but because fans just don't believe anything but what they decided to believe a long time ago.

As for Sean Taylor, we miss him big time on the field! Big time! Not to mention the fact that were he alive we probably would have spent the picks on Moore and/or Horton elsewhere, perhaps the line.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The friendship between Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato is sooooo overblown, VC was actually probably better friends with Gerald Snyder than with Cerrato.

And Snyder's "meddling" in team affairs is overblown as well, especially in relation to other owners' "meddling" with their teams.

But ultimately it doesn't matter. Ultimately, VC just has to be removed from any football-related decision making. Not so much because of what he has and hasn't accomplished, but because fans just don't believe anything but what they decided to believe a long time ago.

As for Sean Taylor, we miss him big time on the field! Big time! Not to mention the fact that were he alive we probably would have spent the picks on Moore and/or Horton elsewhere, perhaps the line.

We could change GM's and things would be dandy for a short time, but I really think that over time people would only go back to blaming Snyder for "meddling" and they wouldn't believe that the GM is truly calling the shots.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

We could change GM's and things would be dandy for a short time, but I really think that over time people would only go back to blaming Snyder for "meddling" and they wouldn't believe that the GM is truly calling the shots.

Until we win a Superbowl the blame will always go right here. I am more pumped to win a SB because then I can tell all haters to shut it. I hope it happens sometime soon.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

We could change GM's and things would be dandy for a short time, but I really think that over time people would only go back to blaming Snyder for "meddling" and they wouldn't believe that the GM is truly calling the shots.

Not necessarily...it would depend on who the GM was and how much respect he has around the league. But maybe I am not the right person to answer that because I don't believe that Dan meddles much on a day to day basis to begin with. I believe that he lets Vinny do his job for the most part...I just don't think he makes Vinny accountable in the same way he has made everyone else there accountable over the last 10 years. And the proof of that is that he's pretty much the only one still there from the start.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

We could change GM's and things would be dandy for a short time, but I really think that over time people would only go back to blaming Snyder for "meddling" and they wouldn't believe that the GM is truly calling the shots.

The only thing that would change the perception of the media and fans, regardless of who is in the GM/personnel role, is a team that consistently is a threat to win 10+ games and go deep into the playoffs.

I'd be fine with a change of regime with the caveat that it's a full changing of football operations with one voice, one philosophy and a organizational structure that we're committed to. Just adding Allen to the muddled mess we currently have is rather pointless.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

The only thing that would change the perception of the media and fans, regardless of who is in the GM/personnel role, is a team that consistently is a threat to win 10+ games and go deep into the playoffs.

I'd be fine with a change of regime with the caveat that it's a full changing of football operations with one voice, one philosophy and a organizational structure that we're committed to. Just adding Allen to the muddled mess we currently have is rather pointless.

I think that's a good insight and probably correct. Also believe it will take a strong personality, though not necessarily a famous one, to be able to fundamentally change the FO approach to draft, FA etc (assuming a fundamental change isn't already occurring). I have no idea whether Allen is that personality.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The friendship between Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato is sooooo overblown, VC was actually probably better friends with Gerald Snyder than with Cerrato.

And Snyder's "meddling" in team affairs is overblown as well, especially in relation to other owners' "meddling" with their teams.

But ultimately it doesn't matter. Ultimately, VC just has to be removed from any football-related decision making. Not so much because of what he has and hasn't accomplished, but because fans just don't believe anything but what they decided to believe a long time ago.

As for Sean Taylor, we miss him big time on the field! Big time! Not to mention the fact that were he alive we probably would have spent the picks on Moore and/or Horton elsewhere, perhaps the line.

That is a pretty good analysis. I never thought about that aspect of losing him.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As for Sean Taylor, we miss him big time on the field! Big time! Not to mention the fact that were he alive we probably would have spent the picks on Moore and/or Horton elsewhere, perhaps the line.

That's what I meant when I said our FO was on the right track in ways we are not considering.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The friendship between Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato is sooooo overblown, VC was actually probably better friends with Gerald Snyder than with Cerrato.

And Snyder's "meddling" in team affairs is overblown as well, especially in relation to other owners' "meddling" with their teams.

But ultimately it doesn't matter. Ultimately, VC just has to be removed from any football-related decision making. Not so much because of what he has and hasn't accomplished, but because fans just don't believe anything but what they decided to believe a long time ago.

As for Sean Taylor, we miss him big time on the field! Big time! Not to mention the fact that were he alive we probably would have spent the picks on Moore and/or Horton elsewhere, perhaps the line.

That doesn't really make sense though. What GM has a close relationship with the owners father? To me the fact that he knows the father that well tells me that the relationship has definitely crossed the line from business to personal. I understand your general point that it's not all his fault and I don't pretend it is. But this organization just needs someone new even if it is just someone new to blame. He have had a bad last decade and we are still blaming the same person for it! Isn't that alone reason enough for change?

I do agree on the point that Snyders day to day meddling is most likely overblown.