Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)

[724Skinsfan]

That makes no sense. Giving Campbell some warm bodies to throw to while most of our WR squad rests up for June?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

That makes no sense. Giving Campbell some warm bodies to throw to while most of our WR squad rests up for June?

Would you rather have him throwing to coaches and trainers? He's go to throw to somebody.

Guys like Roydell Williams and Trent Shelton aren't being brought in to shake up the WR corps. Talk about something that makes no sense.

[724Skinsfan]

C'mon Matty! That was sarcasm at it's finest.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

C'mon Matty! That was sarcasm at it's finest.

Hard to tell around here sometimes. Just look at the posts about giving up on Kelly already or cutting Randle El.

[Paintrain]

Kelly on his knee from an interview with Redskins Blog last month:
How's the knee doing?

Kelly: "It's doing good, man. Actually, right now, it's almost stronger than the other one. The quad muscle actually is bigger than the healthy leg, so I'm doing good."

Are you on schedule, then?

Kelly: "I'm a little bit ahead, actually. Like I said, it's looking good, so I've just gotta make sure. Last year, I really didn't ... since I just had the problem, I really didn't keep a real maintenance program. This year, I'm gonna keep a maintenance program throughout the whole year, keep it nice and strong."

And you're working with the training staff and everyone on that?

Kelly: "Yeah, Larry and Elliot, you know, all those guys. With them, and then [Head of Strength & Conditioning] John Hastings has me do certain stuff, stuff that strengthens it, stuff like that, so I'm on a roll right now."

So do you expect to be ready to go at hundred percent by preseason?

Kelly: "Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. I'm gonna do the last OTA. During the time of the first OTAs I'll just be strengthening and running and stuff like that, but the last OTA I'll get in and hopefully do like I did last OTA and training camp and this time just keep it rolling, man, right into the season."

From what you learned last training camp, is there something you would do differently this time through?

Kelly: "I think, knowing now that I'd messed up my knee before, I think -- like I said -- that I'd keep a maintenance program on it. Even when it's feeling good, even when it's not hurting, I'll always strengthen it all throughout the year, so it never gets to a weak point.

"Like I say, your body's your business now, so anything I can do to take care of my body, you know, I'm gonna do it. I'm actually changing my diet right now and all that kinda stuff, so...."

From an interview with Redskins.com in February:
In an effort to add more size to their wide receiver corps, the Redskins grabbed the 6-4, 219-pound Kelly in the middle of the second round of the draft.

His knee flared up early in training camp, keeping him on the sidelines most of his rookie campaign.

For the season, Kelly played in just five games and caught three passes for 18 yards.

Kelly was asked if the knee injury was something that could hinder him his entire career.

“No, I don’t think so,” he said. “I [suffered] the injury in college, and after I rehabbed it, I never thought about it again. I never did anything to keep the muscles around my leg real strong.

“There are things I know now that I didn’t know then [about rehabbing the knee and keeping it strong]. There are a lot of things I can do to prevent it from re-occurring.

“It’s healing up, I just have to make sure I take better care of it.”

[SBXVII]

Pardon the mistake fellas, I thought we had signed Hacket. I thought I read somewhere that Hacket was offered and signed but most likely it said he was offered and expected to sign. Washington was offered but was going to check out the Ravens camp this week or weekend then make a decision.

I can see Hacket making the team, perhaps even replacing Thrash in his roll, only cause he does the same job as Thrash at a younger age plus already has played in this type of offense for a few yrs with Zorn in Seattle. Not saying he's a Chad Johnson but simply knows the plays and does the same job as Thrash but younger.

Reading up on Washington does not excite me. drafted by the Bengals in the 3rd round in 2003. I understand they have talent or did at the time in Cinci so I imagine it was hard getting playing time. Then goes to the Patriots and catches like one catch for 3 yrds in his 2 seasons with them, he was mainly a special teamer.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

IF THIS LINGERS INTO AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER HOW LONG DOES HE DESERVE A ROSTER SPOT? That was the question.

If this lingers into August and September, he won't take a roster spot - we will probably IR him. That way, we're not totally giving up on him, but we're not wasting a roster spot for him another year. The only receivers "garaunteed" roster spots right now are Thoms, ARE, and Moss. Thrash has several younger guys who are just as good on special teams with more upside at WR competing to replace him. If Kelly doesnt heal up, i fully expect him to be IRed and another of these camp guys will replace him for 2009. In 2010, AREs getting cut (the cap hit is only about 4M after the restructure he did this offseason), so if Kelly is IRed this year, he can take AREs spot next year without having to cut anyone we don't want to to make room.

I'm still hopeful Kellys knee will heal up, but my gut is telling me it won't. Many teams took Kelly off their boards completely last year because of his knee. The same knee has kept him from doing much of anything for over a year. So far, i've heard nothing to make me think this won't be an ongoing problem. Thank goodness we have Devin Thomas and Fred Davis. I think they both have breakout years and Thomas becomes our #1 WR in 2010.

[Monkeydad]

This is cool. I have Roydell Williams as the team's #3 WR on my Madden fantasy franchise league, with JC throwing to him. (Boldin is the #1 and Malcolm Kelly is a beast at #2, of course Portis and Cooley are on the team too)


No seriously, Roydell Williams could be a very good pickup for depth if he can stay healthy and focused. His numbers were a bit deflated because he had Vince Young as his QB last time he played. He did have 719 yards on a team with almost no passing game.

I just hope we do not sign so many productive WRs that it stunts Kelly and Thomas' development and keeps them off the field more than they should be.

Maybe we're planning on moving Randel El? We've found a replacement punt returner. I'd hate to see him go, he's actually a very good WR for us in clutch situations and 3rd down and adds a passing WR to our arsenal.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Buster

This is cool. I have Roydell Williams as the team's #3 WR on my Madden fantasy franchise league, with JC throwing to him. (Boldin is the #1 and Malcolm Kelly is a beast at #2, of course Portis and Cooley are on the team too)


No seriously, Roydell Williams could be a very good pickup for depth if he can stay healthy and focused. His numbers were a bit deflated because he had Vince Young as his QB last time he played. He did have 719 yards on a team with almost no passing game.

I just hope we do not sign so many productive WRs that it stunts Kelly and Thomas' development and keeps them off the field more than they should be.

Maybe we're planning on moving Randel El? We've found a replacement punt returner. I'd hate to see him go, he's actually a very good WR for us in clutch situations and 3rd down and adds a passing WR to our arsenal.

The only thing holding them back is them. We don't have time to "groom" them. They are big boys. Put up or shut up.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

The only thing holding them back is them. We don't have time to "groom" them. They are big boys. Put up or shut up.

They're currently the #3 and #4 WRs...so they do not have to step in in Week 1 and take over the offense. It will be great if they can or do...but Moss and Randel El are still the main guys for now. After this season, the two sophomores need to be capable of replacing at least Randel El and possibly being the #1 and #2 guys if they need to be. Hopefully, Moss will stay healthy and productive for more years with the Redskins though.

[MTK]

Once again, ARE isn't going anywhere. Cutting/trading him would create a cap hit of over $13M.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Once again, ARE isn't going anywhere. Cutting/trading him would create a cap hit of over $13M.

This year no. Next year, definitely.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

This year no. Next year, definitely.

What's his cap hit for next year?

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What's his cap hit for next year?

According to RI the hit would be 4.4MM in dead cap if they cut ARE after the 2009 season. Sounds good to me.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

According to RI the hit would be 4.4MM in dead cap if they cut ARE after the 2009 season. Sounds good to me.

That doesn't quite jive with what we've got here, maybe one of our cap folks can comment further.