What has Obama done well?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

What? For someone in the military?? I was in the military too. Loved my country then, love it now. And I still disagree with that point of view. Respectfully.

Why is it that some on the right feel as though they have a monoply on patriotism?

Who made this arguement? To say someone is ignorant of protocol isn't saying they're unpatriotic. Unless someone has said it to you then what is your motivation if not to dismiss an arguement?

Being in the mititary doesn't automatically make you more patriotic than another. I've not made that arguement. Perhaps you read into that on your own or maybe that is just a tactic?

I bring up the military because that's where I learned not to bow to foreigners, especially when you're a representative of the U.S. I don't expect everyone to know this because it's not taught. They taught me in grammar school to bring the flag in when it rains too. This seems to be lost on a lot of people these days.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What about when Jimmy Carter greeted Queen Elizabeth by kissing her...on the lips

If anything that would be looked as breaking their customs and kind of disgracing her.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

Well, when you have time please let us know where it says what you claim in the Military Code of Conduct. And just to be clear it says nothing of that sort whatsoever.

And yes, the Flag is more important than the president...this is very obvious to even someone like me who believes flag burning in protest is permissible.

No, not you Saden.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What about when Jimmy Carter greeted Queen Elizabeth by kissing her...on the lips

I was too young to remember that. Was that with or without tounge?

[Trample the Elderly]

In an attempt to bring this thread back on topic, I'd like to mention something good that Obama has done.

He did get those two women released from N.Korea. Whether their dumb asses should've been there to begin with I'll leave to someone else. Seriously, why were they up there? And those two on the border of Iran, what they hell where they thinking? There are no KOA campgrounds on the Iranian border, right? Senator Webb also got that twit out of Burma too. Who the hell goes to Burma? This is a legitimate function of the executive office.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

In an attempt to bring this thread back on topic, I'd like to mention something good that Obama has done.

He did get those two women released from N.Korea. Whether their dumb asses should've been there to begin with I'll leave to someone else. Seriously, why were they up there? And those two on the border of Iran, what they hell where they thinking? There are no KOA campgrounds on the Iranian border, right? Senator Webb also got that twit out of Burma too. Who the hell goes to Burma? This is a legitimate function of the executive office.

I thought Bill got those two people out of N Korea.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by firstdown

What do you mean whenyou say not as a country , but as a race.

The Human Race.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I thought Bill got those two people out of N Korea.

Bubba was the face of it. I think it was the Obama administration that set it up and gave it the go ahead. I could be wrong but that's my opinion.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Bubba was the face of it. I think it was the Obama administration that set it up and gave it the go ahead. I could be wrong but that's my opinion.

I thought it was Gore and Bill who worked on getting them free but as you I could be wrong. I would think with all the negative stuff going on right now with Obama if he could lay claim to getting them free then he would have.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Read this:
snopes.com: Is Barack Obama a natural-born citizen of the U.S.?

Hey, I can understand not wanting him to be american, therefore not eligible for president, but he was born in Hawaii...read that entire article, it will explain it. I thought we went over this like a year ago?
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until i see his birth certificate i won't believe it.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

until i see his birth certificate i won't believe it.

You do know his birth certificate is safe in the state of Hawaii? Verified by state officials, the very hosipital where he was born, including the Republican Governor. It's been verified - it's there. Really.

[firstdown]

I have not followed this Birth Certificate stuff so I guessing one has never been produced.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

You do know his birth certificate is safe in the state of Hawaii? Verified by state officials, the very hosipital where he was born, including the Republican Governor. It's been verified - it's there. Really.

ooohhh, so it must be true then.:yeahright

let me see it. let the american people see it. there are lots and lots of people who believe obama was not born in america.

and why would it be safe in hawaii? i was born in frederick md,but my birth certificate is in my upstairs closet, here in va.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I have not followed this Birth Certificate stuff so I guessing one has never been produced.

not that i'm aware of.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

ooohhh, so it must be true then.:yeahright

let me see it. let the american people see it. there are lots and lots of people who believe obama was not born in america.

and why would it be safe in hawaii? i was born in frederick md,but my birth certificate is in my upstairs closet, here in va.

As I learned when I first went to get a driver's license, Washington DC doesn't send you an official copy of your birth certificate unless you request it. Maybe 12th just means the official copy is still in HI.

Also, lots and lots of people believe a lot of stupid stuff, that doesn't make it true. I know you would agree to that.