Potential Epic Fail

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by RedskinMike

You are smoking crack if you think the lions are going to be favored. No chance in hell that happens.

The Lions favored?

Alright people, take 10 deep breaths and let some oxygen get to your brain before typing this bs.

[Lotus]

You do have to give the Lions credit for being one of the most consistent teams in the league. Let's hope that they stay consistent for one more week.

[mooby]

I know I'm not the only one that doesn't want Cowher to come in here next year. He'd run Clinton Portis into retirement and try and switch our d-personnel to a 3-4, aka pretty much the exact opposite type of linebackers and d-lineman that we have except for Haynesworth. I don't want a guy who won one Super Bowl after like 15 years with one franchise. And you know Snyder would still have Cerrato making all the decisions. Disaster in the making if you ask me.

But if we lose to the Lions JZ will be as good as gone. It's like I keep hearing, if you're gonna go out, go out firing, don't leave your bullets in the clip. But what makes people believe that JZ is willing to place all his trust in Campbell in the red zone all of a sudden? Unless he had some massive change of heart and decided it's time to let Campbell open it up I don't think we'll see innovative changes in the red zone next week. Mitchell can't even get on the field in the game, what makes people think all of a sudden JZ is gonna start inserting him and Kelly into all (probably 1 or 2 what with the heavy running to the left side) our red zone pass plays? I mean we'd all love to see a 3 wr set with Mitchell, Kelly, and Cooley down in the red zone but I just don't think it's gonna happen. I think Zorn is gonna keep trying to run Portis into the end zone until either he snaps or the team snaps. For me, the fact of the thing is that Zorn doesn't trust the offense to throw the ball into the endzone when we're down there. And that distrust ain't gonna disappear just like that.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mooby

I know I'm not the only one that doesn't want Cowher to come in here next year. He'd run Clinton Portis into retirement and try and switch our d-personnel to a 3-4, aka pretty much the exact opposite type of linebackers and d-lineman that we have except for Haynesworth. I don't want a guy who won one Super Bowl after like 15 years with one franchise. And you know Snyder would still have Cerrato making all the decisions. Disaster in the making if you ask me.

A few thoughts on this

- A big reason why Cowher ran the 3-4 defense in Pittsburgh is because he entrusted the defense when he started to Dick Lebeau (and to a lesser extent Dom Capers) a huge proponent of the 3-4. But Cowher has said that he's not married to the 3-4 defense and wouldn't use it if the talent was there for a 4-3

- One of the "knocks" against Cowher has been that he really didn't do anything as an X and Os guy on game day, that he left the offense up to Bruce Arians/Whisenhunt etc. and the defense to Lebeau and whoever else was the DC. To that end, I would suspect that if he became the head coach his role would be more of a Joe Gibbs than a Jim Zorn

- Are you saying you don't want to wait 15 years for a Super Bowl? Because really Cowher's record during that 15 year span is pretty solid.

- Why is it a problem for VC to continue to make personnel decisions? Is that just the popular thing to say? Talent wise, I think he's putting a pretty solid team together. Of course, there are still some question marks. But really those can't be answered until they get opportunities. So, of course, the issue is whose fault is it they are not getting the opportunities. You can, however, make the argument that if Zorn isn't capable of succeeding and is fired then Cerrato should go with him. Because if Cerrato who told Snyder that Zorn was the guy (and not Fassel, for example) and that Snyder should put his faith in Zorn.

if it comes down to Shananan or Cowher (the popular choics), I can think of good reasons for both and neither.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Epic Fail = Censorship

Could have edited my letter to the Redskins. But hey. All hail the power of the moderator. There is no rights to free speech here..LMAO

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Epic Fail = Censorship

Could have edited my letter to the Redskins. But hey. All hail the power of the moderator.

What? You asked me to delete it didn't you? I guess I should have asked why

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What? You asked me to delete it didn't you? I guess I should have asked why

Oh my bad. I just thought you deleted it being mean. I took a lot of time to write that sorry. I see your point when I was being to general. But honestly. I wanted us fans to have a voice. That didn't include curse words and other unnecessary language. Just was responding to the players not understanding why we boo'd them. My fault buddy. dag it took me a while to write it and edit it. That's my fault. I told you to delete it if you thought it was inappropriate for the forum. I just think we need to motivate them at times (since the coach doesn't) and let them know how much this team means to us. Sorry for the miscommunication on my part.

OOPS

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Oh my bad. I just thought you deleted it being mean. I took a lot of time to write that sorry. I see your point when I was being to general. But honestly. I wanted us fans to ahve a voice. That didn't include curse words and other unnecessary language. Just was responding to the players not understanding why we boo'd them. My fault buddy. dag it took me a whiel to read it and edit it. That's my fault. I told you to delete it if you thought it was inappropriate for the blog.

OOPS

Just because I disagreed with a lot of what you wrote didn't mean I was going to delete to be mean. You asked me to delete it so I did. Next time...save it in a Word document first

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Just because I disagreed with a lot of what you wrote didn't mean I was going to delete to be mean. You asked me to delete it so I did. Next time...save it in a Word document first

Agreed.

And yes I do get very depressed when we lose. But only for a day..LMAO. I love my skins that much. But I have friends that are Eagles NY and Cowgirls fans. So I go through it all week. Have to turn my phone off on Sundays and everything. LMAO


ps. I love my skins so much. That there was a thunderstorm that year of the Superbowl against the Broncos and the power went out. I was young. Can't remember how young. But I pulled out my lil boom box with my D batteries and blasted it so all the neighbors could hear the game. So I am diehard since day one. Love my Skins.

HTTR!!!!!!!!!!

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Oh my bad. I just thought you deleted it being mean. I took a lot of time to write that sorry. I see your point when I was being to general. But honestly. I wanted us fans to have a voice. That didn't include curse words and other unnecessary language. Just was responding to the players not understanding why we boo'd them. My fault buddy. dag it took me a while to write it and edit it. That's my fault. I told you to delete it if you thought it was inappropriate for the forum. I just think we need to motivate them at times (since the coach doesn't) and let them know how much this team means to us. Sorry for the miscommunication on my part.

OOPS

Hey DMV I read your post and I thought it summed up how most of us real fans feel about the Redskins. Some of us eat sleep and breathe Redskins football. It wasn't disrepectful it was heart felt and the players need to see how loyal and passionate we are about the Redskins. Good Post.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

A few thoughts on this

- A big reason why Cowher ran the 3-4 defense in Pittsburgh is because he entrusted the defense when he started to Dick Lebeau (and to a lesser extent Dom Capers) a huge proponent of the 3-4. But Cowher has said that he's not married to the 3-4 defense and wouldn't use it if the talent was there for a 4-3

- One of the "knocks" against Cowher has been that he really didn't do anything as an X and Os guy on game day, that he left the offense up to Bruce Arians/Whisenhunt etc. and the defense to Lebeau and whoever else was the DC. To that end, I would suspect that if he became the head coach his role would be more of a Joe Gibbs than a Jim Zorn

- Are you saying you don't want to wait 15 years for a Super Bowl? Because really Cowher's record during that 15 year span is pretty solid.

- Why is it a problem for VC to continue to make personnel decisions? Is that just the popular thing to say? Talent wise, I think he's putting a pretty solid team together. Of course, there are still some question marks. But really those can't be answered until they get opportunities. So, of course, the issue is whose fault is it they are not getting the opportunities. You can, however, make the argument that if Zorn isn't capable of succeeding and is fired then Cerrato should go with him. Because if Cerrato who told Snyder that Zorn was the guy (and not Fassel, for example) and that Snyder should put his faith in Zorn.
if it comes down to Shananan or Cowher (the popular choics), I can think of good reasons for both and neither.

Vinnie takes a lot of flack from people who don't really understand his job, sure, but at some point don't you have to win something? I mean, it's a bottom line league. 　He's put a team together that is clearly talented in ways but lacks depth and balance in others. As this season progresses, if none of the 08 second rounders step up, if the offensive line continues to whither, if Deangelo Hall continues to look like a 60 million dollar liability, and if the team continues to swim around the 500 mark, how can one continue to defend the guy? I mean, we've been on the three year plan for almost 10 years now. Maybe it's not completely fair but who else in football gets to underperform and keep their job in perpetuity?

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

Hey DMV I read your post and I thought it summed up how most of us real fans feel about the Redskins. Some of us eat sleep and breathe Redskins football. It wasn't disrepectful it was heart felt and the players need to see how loyal and passionate we are about the Redskins. Good Post.

Thanks. I am so die hard man. It actually hurts when they lose. But I try not to be too critical. But I feel like a lot of fans are fed up. Some may express it in the wrong way. But I just want to see my team do good. That's how passionate I am as all fans should be. One thing I love about "diehard" skins fan is that we know our football on some level and we are good at expressing our disatisfaction. Some people have players on a very short rope. But I give them a chance. But whether it is coaching, FO or players. They need to be held accountable. They need to know how we feel and we have put up with a lot. Saying that. I love my skins and always will!!!

HTTR!!

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Thanks. I am so die hard man. It actually hurts when they lose. But I try not to be too critical. But I feel like a lot of fans are fed up. Some may express it in the wrong way. But I just want to see my team do good. That's how passionate I am as all fans should be. One thing I love about "diehard" skins fan is that we know our football on some level and we are good at expressing our disatisfaction. Some people have players on a very short rope. But I give them a chance. But whether it is coaching, FO or players. They need to be held accountable. They need to know how we feel and we have put up with a lot. Saying that. I love my skins and always will!!!

HTTR!!

I like the Skins but to say love is a bit much IMO, I save love for my family. I use to live and die Redskins when I was a tennager and a 20 something but now there is just too much more important stuff in my life to waste my time on the Skins, espically this Skins team.

Sunday I watched the 1st quarter then the 4th quarter, no way was I giving up an entire beutiful Sunday afternoon with my son to this team and the only reason I watched the 4th was because my son took a nap.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't see why it's very likely we'll loose. Stafford has been pretty bad, I can't see them putting up more than 10 points. As for our offense...

And.................. That wouldnt be enough for them to pull out a W?

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I like the Skins but to say love is a bit much IMO, I save love for my family. I use to live and die Redskins when I was a tennager and a 20 something but now there is just too much more important stuff in my life to waste my time on the Skins, espically this Skins team.

Sunday I watched the 1st quarter then the 4th quarter, no way was I giving up an entire beutiful Sunday afternoon with my son to this team and the only reason I watched the 4th was because my son took a nap.

I'm definitely getting to this point. I was going to buy Sunday Ticket this year and then thought about it... there's usually 5 weeks out of the year that I don't get the skins on the local channels... So am I willing to pay $80/game just to be disappointed again and again? No thanks.