Should Ramsey Start Against Chicago?

d151b · 10-11-2004, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Big C

see, even when ramsey came in against the giants, and threw the picks, he still got us down the field, gaining big chunks of yards. we got nothing to lose anymore, so get his development started again

Exactly, when Ramsey came in he moved the offense up and down the field like offenses are supposed to do. So, he through 3 INT's.... big deal. He MOVED the friggin' offense. Brunell has not thrown many INT's but he's been extremely lucky in that several defenders have dropped easy INT's. He threw it directly to Ray Lewis last night and he just dropped it. Deion Sanders.......I repeat DEION SANDERS picked off Brunell last night!!! Brunell QB rating vs. Ravens 49.1

denim_monger · 10-11-2004, 02:48 PM

i think the poll needs a new option, bench em all and get a new qb next year hahahaha

SmootSmack · 10-11-2004, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by denim_monger

i think the poll needs a new option, bench em all and get a new qb next year hahahaha

SkinsRock · 10-11-2004, 03:20 PM

I think the bottom line is this: Starting Ramsey can't be any worse than what we have seen so far. So what if he gets a couple more picks? He has the ability to move the ball downfield and odds are that we will score more TD's because of that....passing and rushing because the downfield threat also opens up the running game for Portis.
Brunell just doesn't seem comfortable, and after five games, the offense should be improving, not regressing like it is.

That Guy · 10-11-2004, 09:23 PM

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And as bad as Brunell has been, he hasn't COMPLETELY screwed up by giving the ball away like we saw Ramsey do against the Giants. That's Brunell's only saving grace.

ramsey's picks where way downfield, brunell's inability to move down the field means his mistakes (or his blockers mistakes) cost points... lots and lots of points...

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-12-2004, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by denim_monger

i think the poll needs a new option, bench em all and get a new qb next year hahahaha

Wow, that's really smart. You must have gone to school for a whole two weeks to come up with that one.

SUNRA · 10-12-2004, 12:21 AM

[QUOTE=denim_monger]i think the poll needs a new option, bench em all and get a new qb next year hahahaha[/QUOTE

Buy a book on simple grammar. It'll help you buddy.

Big C · 10-12-2004, 12:57 AM

geeze whats witht he denim monger bashing...

Jamaican'Skin · 10-12-2004, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by denim_monger

i think the poll needs a new option, bench em all and get a new qb next year hahahaha

Thank you for your incredible insight

That Guy · 10-12-2004, 03:56 AM

can't you just ban the ip and get on things... or add an ignore option?

jrocx69 · 10-12-2004, 07:42 AM

i see it both ways, we need a change and throw a different look at opponets D. i think ramsey can stretch the field better as he did against NY. BUT.... i as well think he will cause much more TO's for the offense. Brunells seems to hold on the ball better.... atleast when he's not throwing the ball when hit than ramsey. and i think our int's will jump up much higher with ramsey. i think we will gain more of a running attack with ramsey, do to streching the D, and have better downfield passing, but with much more turnovers with him in do to not reading the D as good as brunell. keep in mind, ramsey has three ints in .5 games than brunells two in 4.5.

my overall vote is that we keep brunell in for 3 to 4 more games and if we show more firepower in those games we keep him listed as starter. if no changes come about, then we really need to throw the season to ramsey in hope for more firepower and that he does need to learn sometime, why not when our hopes are pretty much gone for post season?

Redskins_P · 10-12-2004, 10:16 AM

I think Brunell will start, but from what I saw Sunday night each time he got hit he was getting up slow. I'm for starting Ramsey, but we all know Gibbs won't do that. The only Ramsey will get in a game is if Brunell gets injured. And from what I saw he won't be able to take that many more hits. Not that I'm wishing an injury on Brunell because I want to see him succeed and shut us all up, but the reality is Brunell is getting older and he's not taking hits like he used to. Don't be surprised if we see Ramsey in a couple of weeks.

But right now it doesn't matter who's the QB. We need a win. The o-line needs open up some holes for Portis and we have throw the ball downfield. The Defense as always will do it's job.

MTK · 10-12-2004, 10:29 AM

I'll be interested to see how long our patience for 'a few picks here and there' from Ramsey lasts if he starts.

I'm not saying he's an INT machine or anything, I'm well aware he only threw 9 last year, but he does tend to throw an INT at very crucial times.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-12-2004, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'll be interested to see how long our patience for 'a few picks here and there' from Ramsey lasts if he starts.

I'm not saying he's an INT machine or anything, I'm well aware he only threw 9 last year, but he does tend to throw an INT at very crucial times.

I'll have a lot of patience for Ramsey, he's not about to go into an old age home. He's young and can grow with Gibbs and the team, unlike Brunell.

MTK · 10-12-2004, 10:49 AM

You might have patience RF, but will everyone else? If he struggles I guarantee it won't be long until cries for Hasselbeck come out.

View Poll Results: Should Brunell start next week?
Are you crazy, keep Brunell in!	5	5.56%
Brunell hasn't done much, but enough to remain the starter.	19	21.11%
Brunell isn't a bad QB, but we'd be better with Ramsey.	30	33.33%
Are you crazy, it's not even a question...start Ramsey!	36	40.00%
Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll

10-12-2004, 12:21 AM	#97
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	[QUOTE=denim_monger]i think the poll needs a new option, bench em all and get a new qb next year hahahaha[/QUOTE Buy a book on simple grammar. It'll help you buddy. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

10-12-2004, 12:57 AM	#98
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	geeze whats witht he denim monger bashing... __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

10-11-2004, 02:48 PM	#92
denim_monger Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: AMERICA BITCH!!! Posts: 122	i think the poll needs a new option, bench em all and get a new qb next year hahahaha

10-11-2004, 03:20 PM	#94
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	I think the bottom line is this: Starting Ramsey can't be any worse than what we have seen so far. So what if he gets a couple more picks? He has the ability to move the ball downfield and odds are that we will score more TD's because of that....passing and rushing because the downfield threat also opens up the running game for Portis. Brunell just doesn't seem comfortable, and after five games, the offense should be improving, not regressing like it is.

10-12-2004, 03:56 AM	#100
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	can't you just ban the ip and get on things... or add an ignore option?

10-12-2004, 07:42 AM	#101
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 43 Posts: 461	i see it both ways, we need a change and throw a different look at opponets D. i think ramsey can stretch the field better as he did against NY. BUT.... i as well think he will cause much more TO's for the offense. Brunells seems to hold on the ball better.... atleast when he's not throwing the ball when hit than ramsey. and i think our int's will jump up much higher with ramsey. i think we will gain more of a running attack with ramsey, do to streching the D, and have better downfield passing, but with much more turnovers with him in do to not reading the D as good as brunell. keep in mind, ramsey has three ints in .5 games than brunells two in 4.5. my overall vote is that we keep brunell in for 3 to 4 more games and if we show more firepower in those games we keep him listed as starter. if no changes come about, then we really need to throw the season to ramsey in hope for more firepower and that he does need to learn sometime, why not when our hopes are pretty much gone for post season?

10-12-2004, 10:16 AM	#102
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	I think Brunell will start, but from what I saw Sunday night each time he got hit he was getting up slow. I'm for starting Ramsey, but we all know Gibbs won't do that. The only Ramsey will get in a game is if Brunell gets injured. And from what I saw he won't be able to take that many more hits. Not that I'm wishing an injury on Brunell because I want to see him succeed and shut us all up, but the reality is Brunell is getting older and he's not taking hits like he used to. Don't be surprised if we see Ramsey in a couple of weeks. But right now it doesn't matter who's the QB. We need a win. The o-line needs open up some holes for Portis and we have throw the ball downfield. The Defense as always will do it's job.

10-12-2004, 10:29 AM	#103
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	I'll be interested to see how long our patience for 'a few picks here and there' from Ramsey lasts if he starts. I'm not saying he's an INT machine or anything, I'm well aware he only threw 9 last year, but he does tend to throw an INT at very crucial times.

10-12-2004, 10:49 AM	#105
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	You might have patience RF, but will everyone else? If he struggles I guarantee it won't be long until cries for Hasselbeck come out.

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