Your next QB for the Skins?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

.I'm sick of JC but our choices suck.
Charlie Batch, Pittsburgh Steelers (34)
Kyle Boller, St. Louis Rams (28)
David Carr, New York Giants (30)
Kellen Clemens, New York Jets (26)
Daunte Culpepper, Detroit Lions (32)
Jeff Garcia, Oakland Raiders (39)
Rex Grossman, Houston Texans (29)
Joey Harrington, New Orleans Saints (30)
Tarvaris Jackson, Minnesota Vikings (26)
Jon Kitna, Dallas Cowboys (36)
Matt Moore, Carolina Panthers (25) – Restricted FA
Patrick Ramsey, Tennessee Titans (30)
Brett Ratliff, Cleveland Browns (24) – Exclusive Rights FA
Troy Smith, Baltimore Ravens (25) – Restricted FA

I rather have JC than anyone of this list including Clements. I say trade for Rosenfelds or Tyler thigpen, even Brady Quinn out of Cleveland or Matt Leinart would be better choices.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I believe Kellen Clemens will be a free agent,wouldnt need to trade for him.I dont want us to draft a qb high and i dont like the list of free agent qbs.I'm sick of JC but our choices suck.
Charlie Batch, Pittsburgh Steelers (34)
Kyle Boller, St. Louis Rams (28)
David Carr, New York Giants (30)
Kellen Clemens, New York Jets (26)
Daunte Culpepper, Detroit Lions (32)
Jeff Garcia, Oakland Raiders (39)
Rex Grossman, Houston Texans (29)
Joey Harrington, New Orleans Saints (30)
Tarvaris Jackson, Minnesota Vikings (26)
Jon Kitna, Dallas Cowboys (36)
Matt Moore, Carolina Panthers (25) – Restricted FA
Patrick Ramsey, Tennessee Titans (30)
Brett Ratliff, Cleveland Browns (24) – Exclusive Rights FA
Troy Smith, Baltimore Ravens (25) – Restricted FA

I think Tarvaris Jackson probably has the most upside.I dont know anything about Matt Moore.
I would like to see us draft a qb in the lower rounds,trade out high draft pick for more picks for more off lineman,let Todd Collins and Colt battle it out for the starting job and next yr be a rebuilding yr.Thats what I would like to see happen,but With todays win now attitude I dont see that happening

I like the Jackson choice because he comes from a WC offense in Minnesota and he is mobile. He also is young but has some starts under his belt.
Matt Moore can not beat out Jake Delhomme enough said.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

I like the Jackson choice because he comes from a WC offense in Minnesota and he is mobile. He also is young but has some starts under his belt.
Matt Moore can not beat out Jake Delhomme enough said.

Jackson did some some good stuff earlier in the year.. last year he was what we think of JaMarcus this year

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

LOL. I knew you'd say him

I think it's very possible that Campbell returns, but probably not likely. Even if he's not an unrestricted free agent, I wouldn't be surprised if the Redskins simply don't tender him. Campbell seems like a great guy, and potentially a solid QB. And yes the OL issues have not helped him, although last night was the first time I thought the line was really awful this season (in other games they've been average to below average). Still, my own unprofessional observations tell me there are things he is not doing right. And I've listened to too many ex-NFL QBs basically say "The OL issue is a crutch. Campbell needs to step it up and take charge." He hasn't often enough and so I think his time is unfortunately up here. It's been mentioned many times before, but when you look at what Rodgers is doing with a brutal line in Green Bay you have to ask yourself why can't Campbell do the same?

If Gruden does actually become our next head coach, I could see the Redskins making a push (trade) for a veteran QB like Kellen Clemens or maybe even Matt Moore and then take someone like Zac Robinson or even Jevan Snead in the 2nd round (or 3rd if we can trade back into that round). Or even Rusty Smith...or John Skelton (but he's not really a Gruden type in my opinion).

This is what I think will actually happen. I think as much as my Gruden source says no he won't coach the Redskins I have a feeling he will (or maybe it's just wishful thinking because I don't want Shanahan), Matt Millen would probably just slide into Gruden's role on MNF, Gruden will go OL in the first 2 rounds, he'll sign or trade for some veteran like Clemens that could start for a year, and he'll draft someone like a Zac Robinson to start by 2011. And he'll find a way to bring in Tebow to replace Mike Sellers

If Gruden isn't the coach, or maybe even if he is, I think we take Jimmy Clausen. (in my best Jaws voice) I've gone back and watched every offensive play this season of the top QB candidates and there's something special about Clausen. I'd take him with the first pick in the draft and stock up on OL the rest of the draft (and a RB somewhere)

I also hope if we making a coaching change its John Gruden. We need a no nonsense coach who will get in this teams ass. As for JC I dont see him a good fit for the WC offense so if thats the offense we keep running next season I dont want him as our QB.

[MTK]

For some reason I just have a gut feeling about Gruden being the next coach too, but I've been wrong too many times to count so who the F knows.

[bornaskin1966]

Originally Posted by jsarno

OK, we all know this season is a bust, and most of us know that while Campbell is NOT the #1 problem, he is indeed a problem and needs to be replaced. If you don't feel he should be replaced, feel free to move beyond this thread...for those that do know he needs to be replaced, who would you replace him with.
Of course we would all love to have Peyton Manning, but there aren't enough first round picks in the world that could pry him away from Indy.

So who will be your poison?

Clausen?
Bradford?
Tebow?
How bout a current NFL qb in a poor situation like Marc Bulger? Brady Quinn, JaMarcus Russell, Jeff Garcia, and numerous others will be available, or at least available with minimal force.

(mods, feel free to post a poll)

I like Tim Tebow, He's firey young lad!

[poopoobigelow]

a point for and a point against bradford...

for: the big knock on him, at this point, is his durability... the last phenom to come out of oklahoma with durability questions was adrian peterson... look how that turned out for everyone that passed on him...

against: the list for shotgun spread offense QBs that have put up huge numbers in college that have been successful in the NFL is very short...

[skins89moss]

As we all can see from watching , the O-line is awful. We can not spend our possible high draft pick on a QB. We need to either trade down for more picks , but we must take the best O-lineman available. If we can get extra picks to move down than we should do it to draft a QB in the later rounds. We need Olineman and a young RB ( Im thinking CJ Spillers out of Clemson) in the later rounds. We dont have a 3rd so we need to get a 3rd round pick by either trading a vet or sliding down in the draft. We also could use a MLB to groom behind London, not sure HB Blades is the answer. I say go with a veteran QB maybe Tavarius Jackson or David Carr and let Colt Brennan get his shot. Its time for JC to take his nice guy act to another city. He just doesnt lead this team like we need at the QB positon.

[Defensewins]

Let Colt Brennan, Chase Daniels, Andre Woodson and an affordable relatively young FA veteran battle it out next summer. Yes, bring Chase back. I am not saying Chase is the answer, but I like him. If we get a diamond in rough out of this group great, but we should not invest heavily in an expensive FA Qb or spend a valuable draft pick on a QB with all the other needs we have. Rebuilding the O-line might take a couple of years.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Let Colt Brennan, Chase Daniels, Andre Woodson and an affordable relatively young FA veteran battle it out next summer. Yes, bring Chase back. I am not saying Chase is the answer, but I like him. If we get a diamond in rough out of this group great, but we should not invest heavily in an expensive FA Qb or spend a valuable draft pick on a QB with all the other needs we have. Rebuilding the O-line might take a couple of years.

You can't pick QBs based on whether you like them or not. JEEZ!!!

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

You can't pick QBs based on whether you like them or not. JEEZ!!!

I don't know the guy.
What I was trying to say is I like what I saw of him on the field, the limited amount of time he played. He had his ups and downs, but I would like to see more of him and see if he has anything, that is all. There are no guarantees in picking a QB whether it is high or low in the draft or picking up a FA. Guys like Brady in NE prove you do not have to be a high pedigree guy.
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[dblanch66]

Tebow. Passion. Smarts. Legs. Plus the last great QB to play for the skins was about the same size as Tebow. Was Steve Young very tall? Don't think so.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

Tebow. Passion. Smarts. Legs. Plus the last great QB to play for the skins was about the same size as Tebow. Was Steve Young very tall? Don't think so.

Tebow will not make it in the NFL get Pike

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

Tebow. Passion. Smarts. Legs. Plus the last great QB to play for the skins was about the same size as Tebow. Was Steve Young very tall? Don't think so.

What defense is he going to run all over? What makes Tebow different from all of the other running QBs?

[Big C]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

What defense is he going to run all over? What makes Tebow different from all of the other running QBs?

what makes him different is his toughness as a runner. probably the main reason people think he would be a good fullback or tight end. you dont see too many qbs being projected to either of those positions. anyway, i think he will be a success in the pros not for his running, which is a compliment to his other skills or will be in the pros at least, is his determination, smarts, and he does have a good arm. he just doesnt run a pro-style offense by any means. he is the kind of player that will never accept failure, which is why he will be a success. he has the talent to back that desire up.