Redskins pick 4th in the draft

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

So I've been following McShay, and he thinks now that Anthony Davis, the Tackle from Rutgers is better or could pass Russell Okung come draft time, so skins fans who want okung and think we don't have a shot at getting him, theres still a good chance we could get him or this Davis kid, who they say can play guard if needed. Also Bryan Bulauga from Iowa, they say is not a LT in the nfl, and he's more of a guard or RT, so I think we could probably scratch him off our list.

I wouldn't be unhappy at all with getting Davis on this team. But I think I would choose Okung first. Either one would be a vast improvement over what we have.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

There's this guard from Idaho that's top ranked.. You should see this monster. I'd even draft this guy in the second round he's so nasty. Iupati I think is the name...

[Larry Michael is Satan]

A trade back scenario that will probably never happen:
Trade with Patriots,
Redkins give up our 1st this year, plus Santana Moss and/or Carlos Rogers.
Pats give up their 1st this year, AND the 2011 1st that they got from the RAIDERS in for R. Seymore.
Surely it would take more picks to smooth it out, but
The goal would be to come away with two quality lineman this year, then next year be in a position to draft Jake Locker, (the next Elway), plus an elite Left Tackle next year, via our own 2011 1st that will probably be pretty high. The Pats could get Gerald McCoy this year with our pick to replace Seymore, and have Santana replace the injured, and possibly done, Wes Welker.
We have to trust that the Raiders will suck next year, a longshot, but we could have, two top five picks next year.
It's going to take a while to rebuild this team, let's face it.

[AYJAX]

Originally Posted by Larry Michael is Satan

A trade back scenario that will probably never happen:
Trade with Patriots,
Redkins give up our 1st this year, plus Santana Moss and/or Carlos Rogers.
Pats give up their 1st this year, AND the 2011 1st that they got from the RAIDERS in for R. Seymore.
Surely it would take more picks to smooth it out, but
The goal would be to come away with two quality lineman this year, then next year be in a position to draft Jake Locker, (the next Elway), plus an elite Left Tackle next year, via our own 2011 1st that will probably be pretty high. The Pats could get Gerald McCoy this year with our pick to replace Seymore, and have Santana replace the injured, and possibly done, Wes Welker.
We have to trust that the Raiders will suck next year, a longshot, but we could have, two top five picks next year.
It's going to take a while to rebuild this team, let's face it.

anything that would help us get locker next year if Campbell isn't working out work be fantastic. i hope campbell works out. i hate most of the top rated qb's coming out this year, setting up next years draft for the better is a change of pace for us and i like it.

[Larry Michael is Satan]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

There's this guard from Idaho that's top ranked.. You should see this monster. I'd even draft this guy in the second round he's so nasty. Iupati I think is the name...

Mike Iupati. He is a dude to build an o line around. He was taking on multiple lineman and LB's on nearly every play in their bowl game. He might be gone by the time we pick in the 2nd.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

There's this guard from Idaho that's top ranked.. You should see this monster. I'd even draft this guy in the second round he's so nasty. Iupati I think is the name...

Okung then the Idaho dude.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

There's this guard from Idaho that's top ranked.. You should see this monster. I'd even draft this guy in the second round he's so nasty. Iupati I think is the name...

I have and I agree. He's one bad dude. Hog material.

[CultBrennan59]

I think Iupati could be the Michael Oher of next year. I Love this guy, the problem is theres no reason for us to take him with the 4th overall pick, which will probably be a QB or OT. Plus in Free Agency is Guards Chester Pitts and Cris Kuper from Houston and Denver, so they already know the offense. And with our second rounder, we'll probably get whatever position we don't get with our first round pick. I personally think we should get Bradford, because all I keep hearing is how he is "super accurate" "good at getting rid of the ball and releasing it quickly" how he can "make all the NFL throws" and is "accuate when he is on the run as well". When I look at a QB the number one thing I'm looking at is is he accurate? Can he get the balls to his receivers? Thats this guy. This guy doesn't come out every year. Russell Okung and Anthony Davis type LT's come out pretty much every year. Plus you look at some of the LT's in the NFL and a lot of them are found pretty much from all the rounds of the draft. QB's that are good are typically in the first round. We've had Jason for 5 years and of the 4 he's played he really hasn't shown me he can be the QB that could take us to the Super Bowl. He's showed me that he can be a back up and fill in if the starting QB gets injured, but thats it. I have more bad memories and moments of Jason than positive moments of him (the time against the Giants he threw and interception 5yds passed the line of scrimmage really sticks out, as well as the games against Dallas, Pittsburgh, Giants where he held onto the ball way way too long, where he should have thrown it away. Pretty much every game which he throws a pass that ends up being a yard short of the first down, instead of going deep.Against the Saints when he was picked off against Vilma and Giants when he stepped way to far back in the pocket and Osi stripped him and ran the fumble in for a score. The only positive moment I have of Jason is when he threw that bomb against the saints a year ago to win, then again that seems to be the only highlight of jason that espn and nfln seem to show when they talk about him)

So I say we draft Sam Bradford and make him the opening day starter, and deal with the OL in FA and what ever we don't get there, get in the draft, which we will. Who knows maybe Bruce campbell of Maryland falls to us in the second round or Bryan Bulaga of Iowa or Jason Fox (he should definitley be there) or a Ciron Black or maybe who knows a Trent Williams could fall just enough for us to trade up

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I think Iupati could be the Michael Oher of next year. I Love this guy, the problem is theres no reason for us to take him with the 4th overall pick, which will probably be a QB or OT. Plus in Free Agency is Guards Chester Pitts and Cris Kuper from Houston and Denver, so they already know the offense. And with our second rounder, we'll probably get whatever position we don't get with our first round pick. I personally think we should get Bradford, because all I keep hearing is how he is "super accurate" "good at getting rid of the ball and releasing it quickly" how he can "make all the NFL throws" and is "accuate when he is on the run as well". When I look at a QB the number one thing I'm looking at is is he accurate? Can he get the balls to his receivers? Thats this guy. This guy doesn't come out every year. Russell Okung and Anthony Davis type LT's come out pretty much every year. Plus you look at some of the LT's in the NFL and a lot of them are found pretty much from all the rounds of the draft. QB's that are good are typically in the first round. We've had Jason for 5 years and of the 4 he's played he really hasn't shown me he can be the QB that could take us to the Super Bowl. He's showed me that he can be a back up and fill in if the starting QB gets injured, but thats it. I have more bad memories and moments of Jason than positive moments of him (the time against the Giants he threw and interception 5yds passed the line of scrimmage really sticks out, as well as the games against Dallas, Pittsburgh, Giants where he held onto the ball way way too long, where he should have thrown it away. Pretty much every game which he throws a pass that ends up being a yard short of the first down, instead of going deep.Against the Saints when he was picked off against Vilma and Giants when he stepped way to far back in the pocket and Osi stripped him and ran the fumble in for a score. The only positive moment I have of Jason is when he threw that bomb against the saints a year ago to win, then again that seems to be the only highlight of jason that espn and nfln seem to show when they talk about him)

So I say we draft Sam Bradford and make him the opening day starter, and deal with the OL in FA and what ever we don't get there, get in the draft, which we will. Who knows maybe Bruce campbell of Maryland falls to us in the second round or Bryan Bulaga of Iowa or Jason Fox (he should definitley be there) or a Ciron Black or maybe who knows a Trent Williams could fall just enough for us to trade up

I hate this attitude towards the offensive line. If you look around the league, a lot very good tackles in the league came from the first or second round (Jake Long, Levi Brown, Ryan Clady, Jeff Otah, D'Brickashaw Ferguson). With as much problems this team has had with that unit, I don't understand how someone could "hope for x or y player to fall to us" in order to build the line. I would hope that Shanahan, who drafted Clady (I believe), would find a way to draft a lineman in the first round. People forget that the reason Miami and the Jets have had reasonable success with young QBs, is because of the offensive lines they've built with first round tackles.

[tootergray34]

Iupati will be LONG gone by the 2nd round guys...read up on your mock drafts before posting...

a good one can be found at
WalterFootball.com

not my site but I frequent it daily. I think we should try to target a guy like that freak from Texas Tech with the face paint...can you say LATTIMER from the program.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING...LEADING ME ONNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Luxorreb]

Okung please!

[CRedskinsRule]

ESPN had a good tidbit, with the fear of a lockout in 2011, even its highly unlikely, alot of college kids are having to factor that in to the decision whether to declare or not.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

ESPN had a good tidbit, with the fear of a lockout in 2011, even its highly unlikely, alot of college kids are having to factor that in to the decision whether to declare or not.

And if there isn't a lockout and an agreement is um agreed upon...there could be a rookie cap starting with the 2011 draft which is probably what the college players are more concerned about

[Lotus]

^ Then I guess that this is the year to be especially wary of underclassmen in the draft, as a higher percentage of them may be motivated more by money than by readiness.

[diehardskin2982]

Has the perfect scenario occured for the skins? both Bradford and McCoy go down with injuries that cause them to fall into the second round...