47% Will Pay No Federal Income Tax

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

The US propping up China? Talk about having something backwards.

Not backwards....China offered American corporations that were tired of labor unions an out. We create cheap products by employing our peasantry. Before American corporations started paying contractors to employ Chinese peasants then who was? No one, they were a socialist state facing extreme poverty. CEOs can make a quick bonus jump by saving millions or billions just paying a Chinese firm to produce what their american born corporation used to produce. Federal reserve notes mean nothing if America falls, they will be worthless to China just pieces of paper. If China falls they can use the American Fedral Reserve notes as currency. That trade deficit is the money of hard working Americans going to China. Don't forget the profits made by the American CEOS. The little ole american worker got left out. So in America and China you wind up creating 1. a small super rich class 2. A class depended on the government to survive. America workers are losing their jobs nad are now depending on hand outs for survival. Chinese workers who used to depend on the governement to eat now have a job, although they are being paid lower than their market value. CEOs say outsourcing is capitalism but that is not capitalism, unless you are paying workers their true market value, or have open competition for workers (free market dichotomy where yall at). The difference is, this is a democracy (super rich votes < laid off workers votes) so the super rich class is gonna have to feed the people they sold into socialism by shipping their jobs to Chinese slave laborer (socialists). China is following America's formula (slavery = richest nation on earth). Only they have too many peole and will reach critical mass once their peasantry becomes self aware again and their deep thinking ancient rich culture takes over. China will split into pieces real soon.


One more point, when Capitalism fails you wind up with
1. War.
2. Socialism.
3. Famine.

Which of these three is more plausible for modern America?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Not backwards....China offered American corporations that were tired of labor unions an out. We create cheap products by employing our peasantry. Before American corporations started paying contractors to employ Chinese peasants then who was? No one, they were a socialist state facing extreme poverty. CEOs can make a quick bonus jump by saving millions or billions just paying a Chinese firm to produce what their american born corporation used to produce. Federal reserve notes mean nothing if America falls, they will be worthless to China just pieces of paper. If China falls they can use the American Fedral Reserve notes as currency. That trade deficit is the money of hard working Americans going to China. Don't forget the profits made by the American CEOS. The little ole american worker got left out. So in America and China you wind up creating 1. a small super rich class 2. A class depended on the government to survive. America workers are losing their jobs nad are now depending on hand outs for survival. Chinese workers who used to depend on the governement to eat now have a job, although they are being paid lower than their market value. CEOs say outsourcing is capitalism but that is not capitalism, unless you are paying workers their true market value, or have open competition for workers (free market dichotomy where yall at). The difference is, this is a democracy (super rich votes < laid off workers votes) so the super rich class is gonna have to feed the people they sold into socialism by shipping their jobs to Chinese slave laborer (socialists). China is following America's formula (slavery = richest nation on earth). Only they have too many peole and will reach critical mass once their peasantry becomes self aware again and their deep thinking ancient rich culture takes over. China will split into pieces real soon.


One more point, when Capitalism fails you wind up with
1. War.
2. Socialism.
3. Famine.

Which of these three is more plausible for modern America?

Well Wall Mart did become that big because people wanted to buy made in the the US stuff over cheap China crap. So eveyone has a pat in this.

[FRPLG]

I don't get what's even being argued anymore here. Can't we all agree that the 47% represent the lowest 47% income earners and that Bush's AND Obama's tax cuts account for a good part of that 47% not owing? From a macro standpoint Firstdown, you shouldn't care. People not paying taxes is money back in their pockets and that's proper conservative tax policy. Now whether it is fair to the other 53% is a whole other argument. That's a discussion of the progressive tax versus a flat tax. And no one here has made a case for either.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I don't get what's even being argued anymore here. Can't we all agree that the 47% represent the lowest 47% income earners and that Bush's AND Obama's tax cuts account for a good part of that 47% not owing? From a macro standpoint Firstdown, you shouldn't care. People not paying taxes is money back in their pockets and that's proper conservative tax policy. Now whether it is fair to the other 53% is a whole other argument. That's a discussion of the progressive tax versus a flat tax. And no one here has made a case for either.

This thread is what happens when you have a bunch of uneducated morons arguing back and forth with one another.

[djnemo65]

I　hung out with a troupe of smoking hot professional Spanish flamenco dancers last night. Seriously, this really happened. I just happened to be sitting and having a beer in this empty bar when this crazy group of hotties rolled in speaking loud drunken Spanish and dancing like pros (which they turned out to be). I said whatsup and they asked if I knew any good clubs and I said that I did and I rolled out with them, your boy djnemo65 and 8 hotties (and this Saudi Arabian guy who was tagging along who turned out to be mad cool too). Everyone in this club kept asking, those are your girls? Damn son, represent. Those girls can really dance. And they were all just the nicest, coolest people you can imagine. From various parts of Spain, they were contracted by a Japanese entertainment company to do flamenco shows in Osaka, so that's why they are over here. Great, great night. When I staggered out of the club the sun was already blasting.　　Definitely gonna try and hang out with them as many more times as I can. 　

Anyway, I figured here was as good a place as any to tell you guys about this.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

I　hung out with a troupe of smoking hot professional Spanish flamenco dancers last night. Seriously, this really happened. I just happened to be sitting and having a beer in this empty bar when this crazy group of hotties rolled in speaking loud drunken Spanish and dancing like pros (which they turned out to be). I said whatsup and they asked if I knew any good clubs and I said that I did and I rolled out with them, your boy djnemo65 and 8 hotties (and this Saudi Arabian guy who was tagging along who turned out to be mad cool too). Everyone in this club kept asking, those are your girls? Damn son, represent. Those girls can really dance. And they were all just the nicest, coolest people you can imagine. From various parts of Spain, they were contracted by a Japanese entertainment company to do flamenco shows in Osaka, so that's why they are over here. Great, great night. When I staggered out of the club the sun was already blasting.　　Definitely gonna try and hang out with them as many more times as I can. 　

Anyway, I figured here was as good a place as any to tell you guys about this.

and then you woke up? j/k

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

I　hung out with a troupe of smoking hot professional Spanish flamenco dancers last night. Seriously, this really happened. I just happened to be sitting and having a beer in this empty bar when this crazy group of hotties rolled in speaking loud drunken Spanish and dancing like pros (which they turned out to be). I said whatsup and they asked if I knew any good clubs and I said that I did and I rolled out with them, your boy djnemo65 and 8 hotties (and this Saudi Arabian guy who was tagging along who turned out to be mad cool too). Everyone in this club kept asking, those are your girls? Damn son, represent. Those girls can really dance. And they were all just the nicest, coolest people you can imagine. From various parts of Spain, they were contracted by a Japanese entertainment company to do flamenco shows in Osaka, so that's why they are over here. Great, great night. When I staggered out of the club the sun was already blasting.　　Definitely gonna try and hang out with them as many more times as I can. 　

Anyway, I figured here was as good a place as any to tell you guys about this.

That story would be great if you said you staggered out of the bar with three of them and took them home. You got them so hot and wet that you had to by flood insurance.

[4mrusmc]

That sounds pretty bad-ass. I miss Japan/ The Orient.

I have a similar story with a group of Swedish hotties back in the day.

[right21arm]

messicans

[mlmpetert]

FOXNews.com - Clinton: Rich 'Not Paying Their Fair Share' in Taxes

[firstdown]

F&ck Hillary. Someone needs to ask her about the family foundation she set up to avoid paying taxes. Its the same one she had to all of a sudden claim when she decided to run for president.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

F&ck Hillary. Someone needs to ask her about the family foundation she set up to avoid paying taxes. Its the same one she had to all of a sudden claim when she decided to run for president.

You're giving her flack for giving her money away to charity?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

You're giving her flack for giving her money away to charity?

I'd have to dig around for the story but it was not set up for charity but more for a reason to avoid paying taxes. I have no problem with someone giving money to charity to have a tax write off but hiding the money in a foundation is more of a way to sheild money from paying taxes. The small % that is required to donate is chump change compared to the tax rate. I really don't really care what she does with her money but don't say the rich are not paying enough taxes when your hiding money from the IRS.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I'd have to dig around for the story but it was not set up for charity but more for a reason to avoid paying taxes. I have no problem with someone giving money to charity to have a tax write off but hiding the money in a foundation is more of a way to sheild money from paying taxes. The small % that is required to donate is chump change compared to the tax rate. I really don't really care what she does with her money but don't say the rich are not paying enough taxes when your hiding money from the IRS.

Rich people shelter and hide money, that's what the do... I guess she's a perfect example of the problem we face with rich-tax-cheats.

[joethiesmanfan]

I wish theight wing get the government back. I want to see them squirm when they can't cut taxes. LOL!!!