F...Toyota

[mredskins]

So my Acura was a bad clutch on the A/C; $850 to repair, yeah me! =(

[Monkeydad]

Japanese quality.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Buster

Japanese quality.

Well I could go back and dig out my old repair bills on my last Grand Cherokee (97) and total up to the point where this Acura is and I willing to bet it was in the neighborhood of $2000 at 3 years and 60K miles, my Acura is at $850.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Well I could go back and dig out my old repair bills on my last Grand Cherokee (97) and total up to the point where this Acura is and I willing to bet it was in the neighborhood of $2000 at 3 years and 60K miles, my Acura is at $850.

Don't feed the troll.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Well I could go back and dig out my old repair bills on my last Grand Cherokee (97) and total up to the point where this Acura is and I willing to bet it was in the neighborhood of $2000 at 3 years and 60K miles, my Acura is at $850.

My wife had a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee and it was a POS. Nothing major but just always something breaking. I replaced ever power door lock motor, rear seal, crank sensor, $500 in trans. computer chips, and a few other things. If I had to pay for everything done I would have racked up some bills.

[saden1]

My brother just bought a 2011 Hyundai Sonata and loves it...says when compared to all the cars he looked at it was the best bang for the $$$. The Japanese auto makers better step up, the Koreans and Americans are gunning for them big time.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by saden1

My brother just bought a Hyundai Sonata and loves it...says when compared to all the cars he looked at it was the best bang for the $$$. The Japanese auto makers better step up, the Koreans and Americans are gunning for them big time.

The new Sonata is a nice car. I am particularly impressed with its upcoming 2.0L turbo. It makes 275 horsepower (with nearly identical torque numbers), gets 34mpg, and runs on 87 octane. Those numbers just do not belong in the same sentence, but Hyundai did it. Props to them. If it proves to be reliable over the long run, it will become a legend.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

The new Sonata is a nice car. I am particularly impressed with its upcoming 2.0L turbo. It makes 275 horsepower (with nearly identical torque numbers), gets 34mpg, and runs on 87 octane. Those numbers just do not belong in the same sentence, but Hyundai did it. Props to them. If it proves to be reliable over the long run, it will become a legend.

Yeah, they're doing it big...it's getting great reviews. I was just watching the review video from Edmunds just now...checkout 1:50 min in:

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Ok, so what is your guess?

I say bad a/c composer.

Antonio Cabezon perhaps?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Don't feed the troll.

you may love jeep but to act like they're a benchmark for quality would be quite ironic

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

you may love jeep but to act like they're a benchmark for quality would be quite ironic

Huh? Where did you come up with that assumption???

Anyway, Jeep has put out some very reliable automobiles over the years. The old AMC-designed 2.5 and 4.0 engines were very reliable. There are many YJ, WJ, TJ, and XJs still on the road with several hundred thousand miles on them. Those engines are some of the most bulletproof designs ever produced. They may not be the most efficient or the most powerful, but I would say that they were/are a benchmark for quality when it comes to reliability.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Huh? Where did you come up with that assumption???

Anyway, Jeep has put out some very reliable automobiles over the years. The old AMC-designed 2.5 and 4.0 engines were very reliable. There are many YJ, WJ, TJ, and XJs still on the road with several hundred thousand miles on them. Those engines are some of the most bulletproof designs ever produced. They may not be the most efficient or the most powerful, but I would say that they were/are a benchmark for quality when it comes to reliability.

When Chrysler bought Jeep quality went down the drain.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Huh? Where did you come up with that assumption???

Anyway, Jeep has put out some very reliable automobiles over the years. The old AMC-designed 2.5 and 4.0 engines were very reliable. There are many YJ, WJ, TJ, and XJs still on the road with several hundred thousand miles on them. Those engines are some of the most bulletproof designs ever produced. They may not be the most efficient or the most powerful, but I would say that they were/are a benchmark for quality when it comes to reliability.

Thats fine but when everything else fall a part around the engine who cares how great it is.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Thats fine but when everything else fall a part around the engine who cares how great it is.

Man, I've never seen a car's interior and exterior fall apart faster than my father's 1998 Chrysler 300. Disgusting.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Huh? Where did you come up with that assumption???

Anyway, Jeep has put out some very reliable automobiles over the years. The old AMC-designed 2.5 and 4.0 engines were very reliable. There are many YJ, WJ, TJ, and XJs still on the road with several hundred thousand miles on them. Those engines are some of the most bulletproof designs ever produced. They may not be the most efficient or the most powerful, but I would say that they were/are a benchmark for quality when it comes to reliability.

They do seem to run forever. If you do drop a tranny in a Wrangler or Cherokee, they're always easy to find a replacement locally.