The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread

[BleedBurgundy]

Watching Sunday Night Football and i'm seeing a lot of 4-3 looks from two 3-4 defenses. I would think Haslett has got to see the writing on the wall and start incorporating a better mix for the personnel he has.

[SBXVII]

Amazing how fast the pack will turn.

I'm going to start making a list of bums... week one was AH, week two was Doughty, week three is Rogers, Carter, Fletcher, and Haslett. I forget anyone? is there anyone left? lol.

Look across the board I saw problems, I'm not sure if it was scheme or players not fitting the scheme or simply just players not doing their jobs. The players I saw giving up big plays, or not tackling;
Buchanon
Carter
Rogers
Hall

crap I could list just about everyone on defense. It just seemed like when the team quickly became 14 points down every player on defense must have felt they had to make a play and ended up over reacting and on just about every play someone different broke down.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Several of us argued to trade him last spring while his value was at its highest (coming off 11 sacks). With each passing game, his trade value drops.

I don't think his value necessarily drops in the eyes of 4-3 teams. He's a physical freak and is in great shape. He's being played WAY out of position. He's always been a hand in the dirt pass rusher in a 4-3. I think we should be shopping him big-time. He's a gigantic liability right now.

Then again we could always move back to a 4-3.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't think his value necessarily drops in the eyes of 4-3 teams. He's a physical freak and is in great shape. He's being played WAY out of position. He's always been a hand in the dirt pass rusher in a 4-3. I think we should be shopping him big-time. He's a gigantic liability right now.

Then again we could always move back to a 4-3.

Unfortunately, that would make sense, something this team doesn't seem to be familiar with.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't think his value necessarily drops in the eyes of 4-3 teams. He's a physical freak and is in great shape. He's being played WAY out of position. He's always been a hand in the dirt pass rusher in a 4-3. I think we should be shopping him big-time. He's a gigantic liability right now.

Then again we could always move back to a 4-3.

That would be my vote. At least play 50-50

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

That would be my vote. At least play 50-50

I think we have to. If we don't it seems awfully stupid. What we're doing isn't working at all. Not even close. Take the damn ego out of it and adjust. We simply do not have the talent or personnel to be playing a full time 3-4.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I think we have to. If we don't it seems awfully stupid. What we're doing isn't working at all. Not even close. Take the damn ego out of it and adjust. We simply do not have the talent or personnel to be playing a full time 3-4.

Especially since we have a competent offense this year (though I don't know what the **** happened with Portis today). The NFC East is going to be wide open, the caoching staff (haslett) needs to get their shit in one sock.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

That would be my vote. At least play 50-50

I thought I remember hearing Shanahan saying around the time he was hired that he would have a 3-4 defense, but wouldn't abandon the 4-3, using 4-3 looks.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I think we have to. If we don't it seems awfully stupid. What we're doing isn't working at all. Not even close. Take the damn ego out of it and adjust. We simply do not have the talent or personnel to be playing a full time 3-4.

Joe Gibbs came here wanting to light up the scoreboard passing. He took a look around and decided the only way to win was with a power running game.

Shanny needs to do some soul searching this week. He has painted himself into a "win now" corner.

[Justinchuck189]

We don't need to fire Haslett. We just need to pull Greg Blache out of retirement and hire him as a defensive assistant. Then when we lose against the Eagles, Packers, Colts, and Bears, we let Blache make the defensive calls against the Lions. Blache will somehow call a better game and the fans will say "See it's not the defensive line, it's the coach."

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Justinchuck189

We don't need to fire Haslett. We just need to pull Greg Blache out of retirement and hire him as a defensive assistant. Then when we lose against the Eagles, Packers, Colts, and Bears, we let Blache make the defensive calls against the Lions. Blache will somehow call a better game and the fans will say "See it's not the defensive line, it's the coach."

I wonder what the defensive version of the swinging gate play is like?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

We need a real nose tackle. Are there any decent prospects next year?

Kemo sucks and Albert is on and off.

Not 1st rd talent in the draft. Some 3-4 DE prospects though.

[Dirtbag59]

Can't read my, can't read my, can't read my defense....oh wait you can.

[diehardskin2982]

We don't need to pitch it in just yet. The Redskins need to swallow their pride and come together as a team, both players and coaches. here is a list of the changes that need to happen.
1. The Haynesworth-Shanahan spat needs to be over. Start him, play him, and use his strengths for your the teams benefit.
2. Commit to the running game. Not for one play, not for one quarter, not for one half, the whole game.
3.The defense needs to attack. Pressure, pressure, pressure.
4. Play our youth. Devin Thomas need to play and develop as a widereceiver. He can only get bettter in game time situation.
5. Spread the ball around. Not Just Moss and Cooley.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

The Haslett should be fired angle of this thread is pretty stupid. Shanahan came in here and forced a 3-4 down everyone's throat when a more aggressive 4-3 is all we needed. Not to mention the fact that he chose to focus on a pissing match with the most talented defensive player on the team.

If anyone should be fired, it should be Shanahan.

Wiser words...I think Shanny will stick around for a few seasons but from what I've seen it won't be anything special. He still doesn't know how to pick winners on defense (players or coaches) and obviously the offense isn't going to be so good we can just blow em out of the water.

...it will be really interesting to see if Allen lasts beyond Shanny? Who's really in charge lol?