IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Buster

Ponder would be the QB I'd like to get, but not at #10.

I agree. I was playing along with the premise of the thread.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

OMG.......im sorry i opened my mouth. I just dont get why people can't say "if i had to choose it would be Mallet" or whomever. SS just asked a hypothetical........ people just seem to veer off is all.

Ok to make those happy who are stuck on the question....
I'd take Andy Dalton at #10. now you want my constructive criticism after right? Because his team didn't lose a game all season, they won 16 games, cause he looks more mobile then the other top prospects to me, cause he can make all the throws, cause he's got good character, cause he looks like he'd fit the scheme well to me.

Now is he worthy of the top 10 spot? Most say no. So I'll take the OL ( Center) that we need and take Andy Dalton later in the draft to make the rest of you happy that we didn't waist a top 10 pick on Dalton.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Ok to make those happy who are stuck on the question....
I'd take Andy Dalton at #10. now you want my constructive criticism after right? Because his team didn't lose a game all season, they won 16 games, cause he looks more mobile then the other top prospects to me, cause he can make all the throws, cause he's got good character, cause he looks like he'd fit the scheme well to me.

Now is he worthy of the top 10 spot? Most say no. So I'll take the OL ( Center) that we need and take Andy Dalton later in the draft to make the rest of you happy that we didn't waist a top 10 pick on Dalton.

Why not get a guy whose value is at #10, like Von Miller, get Dalton in the 4th round, where he will still be available, and a center in the 4th-5th round, where they usually go. Or I'll even go as high as 3rd for a center if there was a really good one and we got a 3rd from a McNabb or Haynesworth trade.

Why are you trying to reach for everything a lot higher than their draft value is? You sell the team short by doing that. Over reaching for players is why we got Orakpo. Oakland over reaching for Heyward-Bey at 7 was the domino that screwed up the rest of the draft and handed us Orakpo IMO. So I'm okay with other teams doing it, but not the Redskins.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Why not get a guy whose value is at #10, like Von Miller, get Dalton in the 4th round, where he will still be available, and a center in the 4th-5th round, where they usually go. Or I'll even go as high as 3rd for a center if there was a really good one and we got a 3rd from a McNabb or Haynesworth trade.

Why are you trying to reach for everything a lot higher than their draft value is? You sell the team short by doing that. Over reaching for players is why we got Orakpo. Oakland over reaching for Heyward-Bey at 7 was the domino that screwed up the rest of the draft and handed us Orakpo IMO. So I'm okay with other teams doing it, but not the Redskins.

I wonder if we should be thinking about the 3rd or 4th rounds, where we have no picks. Certainly we might get more picks in trades. But with the CBA uncertainty, there is a chance that there will be no trading of players until after the draft. What this means is that we might get only 2012 draft picks in trades.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I wonder if we should be thinking about the 3rd or 4th rounds, where we have no picks. Certainly we might get more picks in trades. But with the CBA uncertainty, there is a chance that there will be no trading of players until after the draft. What this means is that we might get only 2012 draft picks in trades.

I was just hypothesizing this based on the possibility of trading for what people are assuming we would get those players for. I know we obviously can not do that if we don't have the picks to do it with. Positive thoughts. If you think it, it will happen....

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I wonder if we should be thinking about the 3rd or 4th rounds, where we have no picks. Certainly we might get more picks in trades. But with the CBA uncertainty, there is a chance that there will be no trading of players until after the draft. What this means is that we might get only 2012 draft picks in trades.

All I was really responding to was the fan upset that we could not simply answer the question as posted with out all the extra diatribe. Unfortunately the QB I like and would like to see the Skins pick up was not on the list. Which is why I originally gave a diatribe about what I'd do with the #10 pick. So I gave him the simple answer .... I'd take Andy Dalton.

On another note I mention taking a OL cause we have need there and people say that's too high. I mention taking a NT and other people say that's too high. I mention LB/DE and people say that's too high.

So can anyone please tell me what's appropriate to take in the first round without saying WR, CB, and RB? Is FS a safe answer cause we have need there also.

[Paintrain]

I have a headache reading that back and forth. Back to the overriding question, if we are picking a QB at 10 I'd have to go with Newton simply because I think he has the highest upside of all of the incoming QB. Unfortunately, I also think he's the furthest away from a making an impact as a starter due to his limited college experience and the gimmick offense he came from. I also wonder about his adaptability to Kyle's system. That being said, a 6'6, 255 specimen with a championship pedigree who supposedly loves football and is willing to put in the work is rather enticing long term.

[wilsowilso]

This QB class needs a nickname.

Let's call them the "Red Flag Brigade."

[SirClintonPortis]

Stats are like 64 bps MP3s but worse. What physically goes on the field, such as ball location, routes thrown, etc are not carried over in the transfer to stats.

[Daseal]

A top 10 pick on a center... That's even worse than Dalton.

[cdskins26]

Locker or newton will be successful on the redskins if they are properly coached by shannahans. If either are subject to what campbell went through, they probably will do the same thing, and be a mediocre starter. Start them when they are ready, and build the team around them.

[Texanskin]

Originally Posted by cdskins26

Locker or newton will be successful on the redskins if they are properly coached by shannahans. If either are subject to what campbell went through, they probably will do the same thing, and be a mediocre starter. Start them when they are ready, and build the team around them.

hear hear...well...maybe not Locker...because he didnt perform well against top competition...while Cam Newton did.....See the Alabama game....on the road!

[SmootSmack]

I'm digging through the vault and watching game tape from this past season. I'm still really sold on Ponder. Tremendous pocket presence, underrated arm. His delivery can be a bit awkward though

But as for the guys likely to be taken in the 1st round, I'm less impressed with Mallet. He doesn't handle pressure as well as I'd thought he would and his balance looks off, particularly when hurried

Watching Locker next

[Lotus]

^ I've got to say, SS, ESPN3 is a godsend for those of us who want to go back through game video.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Lotus

^ I've got to say, SS, ESPN3 is a godsend for those of us who want to go back through game video.

You're welcome

I'm using that and other video which gives some other angles