Carson Palmer demands trade, threatens to retire...

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

So, there is a "problem" at the Skins' QB position. Do The Shanahans swallow hard and put McNabb back in as the #1 guy next year? I doubt there is enough Tobasco sauce in the country to make the amount of crow they would have to eat taste good. I really don't see The Shanahans and McNabb kissing and making up.

Yes, I think they should and will put McNabb back in as starter from Week 1.

He played well for the most part, except for his interception total, but we had a big play offense we have not seen since Spurrier's preseason and the last couple minutes of the Monday Night Miracle.


McNabb, like Campbell the year(s) before, took a beating from lack of protection. He ran out of trouble VERY well, better than he has for years in my opinion. But, any QB can only do so much on his own.

Rabach needs replaced ASAP. We may need to solidify the RT position. Dockery isn't fit for the scheme and will need to be demoted or replaced. The only lineman we can really feel confident in is Trent Williams. Our #10 pick needs to be used on the BEST lineman we can get, any position, but preferably a Center/Guard who can either replace Rabach or allow one of our guards who are natural centers to kick him to the curb.

Put a rookie QB behind Rabach and he'll have more INTs than TDs too.

Build up this line with the #10 pick and hopefully the second rounder too. Go after a FA...even Jared Gaither for a season or two. Hopefully Mike Williams can come back strong.

McNabb did have some setbacks in his transition from a polar-opposite offense under Reid, but he did show signs of being a QB we can win with...but now alone.

Don't forget, he wasn't the only Redskin on offense who was transitioning to a new system...they ALL were. Ask Derrick Dockery how easy is was. Even Cooley had a rough year with drops...perhaps his concentration was on the new routes or assignments?

Year 2 needs to be a continuation of Year 1. Don't give up after 16 games, that would be foolish and set us back to Day 1-Post Zorn again.

McNabb needs to keep progressing but needs protection too. He couldn't even be assured of the ability to drop back every play...at least once weekly, Rabach would tackle him.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Buster

Yes, I think they should and will put McNabb back in as starter from Week 1.

He played well for the most part, except for his interception total, but we had a big play offense we have not seen since Spurrier's preseason and the last couple minutes of the Monday Night Miracle.


McNabb, like Campbell the year(s) before, took a beating from lack of protection. He ran out of trouble VERY well, better than he has for years in my opinion. But, any QB can only do so much on his own.

Rabach needs replaced ASAP. We may need to solidify the RT position. Dockery isn't fit for the scheme and will need to be demoted or replaced. The only lineman we can really feel confident in is Trent Williams. Our #10 pick needs to be used on the BEST lineman we can get, any position, but preferably a Center/Guard who can either replace Rabach or allow one of our guards who are natural centers to kick him to the curb.

Put a rookie QB behind Rabach and he'll have more INTs than TDs too.

Build up this line with the #10 pick and hopefully the second rounder too. Go after a FA...even Jared Gaither for a season or two. Hopefully Mike Williams can come back strong.

McNabb did have some setbacks in his transition from a polar-opposite offense under Reid, but he did show signs of being a QB we can win with...but now alone.

Don't forget, he wasn't the only Redskin on offense who was transitioning to a new system...they ALL were. Ask Derrick Dockery how easy is was. Even Cooley had a rough year with drops...perhaps his concentration was on the new routes or assignments?

Year 2 needs to be a continuation of Year 1. Don't give up after 16 games, that would be foolish and set us back to Day 1-Post Zorn again.

McNabb needs to keep progressing but needs protection too. He couldn't even be assured of the ability to drop back every play...at least once weekly, Rabach would tackle him.

I don't think thats a far stretch honestly.. Shanny won't let 5 go unless we have a QB ready to go and I dont think they trust Rex enough

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Buster

Yes, I think they should and will put McNabb back in as starter from Week 1.

He played well for the most part, except for his interception total, but we had a big play offense we have not seen since Spurrier's preseason and the last couple minutes of the Monday Night Miracle.


McNabb, like Campbell the year(s) before, took a beating from lack of protection. He ran out of trouble VERY well, better than he has for years in my opinion. But, any QB can only do so much on his own.

Rabach needs replaced ASAP. We may need to solidify the RT position. Dockery isn't fit for the scheme and will need to be demoted or replaced. The only lineman we can really feel confident in is Trent Williams. Our #10 pick needs to be used on the BEST lineman we can get, any position, but preferably a Center/Guard who can either replace Rabach or allow one of our guards who are natural centers to kick him to the curb.

Put a rookie QB behind Rabach and he'll have more INTs than TDs too.

Build up this line with the #10 pick and hopefully the second rounder too. Go after a FA...even Jared Gaither for a season or two. Hopefully Mike Williams can come back strong.

McNabb did have some setbacks in his transition from a polar-opposite offense under Reid, but he did show signs of being a QB we can win with...but now alone.

Don't forget, he wasn't the only Redskin on offense who was transitioning to a new system...they ALL were. Ask Derrick Dockery how easy is was. Even Cooley had a rough year with drops...perhaps his concentration was on the new routes or assignments?

Year 2 needs to be a continuation of Year 1. Don't give up after 16 games, that would be foolish and set us back to Day 1-Post Zorn again.

McNabb needs to keep progressing but needs protection too. He couldn't even be assured of the ability to drop back every play...at least once weekly, Rabach would tackle him.

McNabb is an injury risk(he did play hurt pretty much all season) and is not good enough in "just moving the sticks". You could cite lack of talent around him, but even with talent, he always had those balls in the dirt and missed some reads to wide open guys because he tried to force it deep.

[MTK]

Sure DM could be back. The question is, is he worth the $$ over someone like Grossman, or possibly another veteran QB that would only be in place until a rookie is ready to play?

The Skins were smart to keep their options open with DM until week 1 of next season, but I still think the chances of him coming back are very slim.

[freddyg12]

I'm taken aback that there are even posts this morning about 5 coming back. It's of course possible, I am just surprised that anyone thinks it's realistic. After reading Buster's posts I thought about some athletes that said they were done w/a team, but eventually came back.

I can't think of any that had that much of a public airing of grievances w/an asst. coach like 5 had w/Kyle S. If all this were just about the benching then I would think McNabb could be back, but when his agent went public about Kyle S. ignoring his client's suggestions, etc., that really seemed to force the team to look for trading partners.

The one small chance of him being back is that Mike S. takes it upon himself to mend fences between he, Kyle & McNabb. If he decides he wants 5 as qb it will happen, but from what has gone down thus far I see no indication of that, and MS has said that he won't stick w/a player that's not right for the team just because of where they were drafted, or what was traded for them.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I'm taken aback that there are even posts this morning about 5 coming back. It's of course possible, I am just surprised that anyone thinks it's realistic. After reading Buster's posts I thought about some athletes that said they were done w/a team, but eventually came back.

I can't think of any that had that much of a public airing of grievances w/an asst. coach like 5 had w/Kyle S. If all this were just about the benching then I would think McNabb could be back, but when his agent went public about Kyle S. ignoring his client's suggestions, etc., that really seemed to force the team to look for trading partners.

The one small chance of him being back is that Mike S. takes it upon himself to mend fences between he, Kyle & McNabb. If he decides he wants 5 as qb it will happen, but from what has gone down thus far I see no indication of that, and MS has said that he won't stick w/a player that's not right for the team just because of where they were drafted, or what was traded for them.

Well, DM did sign a new contract even with the ongoing issues behind the scenes. It wasn't like these problems only popped up after he signed the deal. So I wouldn't rule out everyone smoothing things out in the offseason. But I do think more than likely he will probably be traded or let go.

[SolidSnake84]

I dont think they should play McNabb, because as others pointed out, he is only a stop gap until the QB for the future is ready. McNabb has had his best days and he wont get better with us, he will only regress.

[freddyg12]

Every Team In NFL Calls Bengals To Let Them Know They Don't Want Carson Palmer | The Onion Sports Network

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Every Team In NFL Calls Bengals To Let Them Know They Don't Want Carson Palmer | The Onion Sports Network

This is complete bullsh!t there is no way this happened. To say he was called over 6 times just to confirm there was no interest B.S.. Then to say the C.F.L. didnt want him either is just weak no wonder he wants out.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by warpaint

This is complete bullsh!t there is no way this happened. To say he was called over 6 times just to confirm there was no interest B.S.. Then to say the C.F.L. didnt want him either is just weak no wonder he wants out.

never heard of the onion before?

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

never heard of the onion before?

No but from this article I wont be going there for info. Is this their M.O. to just spew B.S.?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by warpaint

No but from this article I wont be going there for info. Is this their M.O. to just spew B.S.?

There's one EVERY time an Onion article is posted!

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by warpaint

No but from this article I wont be going there for info. Is this their M.O. to just spew B.S.?

Pure comedy every day.

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[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by warpaint

No but from this article I wont be going there for info. Is this their M.O. to just spew B.S.?

Well...we already know who'll be falling for our April Fool's joke this year

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by mattyk

never heard of the onion before?

lol!