Junior Seau Confirmed Dead

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I knew he was really struggling with his life the past few years, but I thought it was just the usual difficulties of adjusting to life outside playing in the NFL. Never knew it was this bad

Everyone though has the out of the limelight moment, you just adjust and maybe do something related such as doing radio or an ESPN analyst or something around those lines, or devote all your time to your charity. It just seems to be a tragic waste of life.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Everyone though has the out of the limelight moment, you just adjust and maybe do something related such as doing radio or an ESPN analyst or something around those lines, or devote all your time to your charity. It just seems to be a tragic waste of life.

You're making it sound much easier than it is

[GusFrerotte]

I chalk this up to the fact the guy must have thought he had nothing left to contribute once football ended. He was very involved in the community, etc. He could have just waged a different kind of fight, that just wasn't on the gridiron.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You're making it sound much easier than it is

It isn't easy if you are the one that has a ton of $ thrust on you for being an All Pro for so long ,with all the adjulation, etc. Not trying to make light of it, but c'mon now. Guys like Darrell Green don't say oh well my playing days are over and all I have in my charity work and get depressed. Everyone has a different temperment Smooty, I know. But Junior did have a lot going for him in terms of community involvement, etc. He could have still made a difference somehow. He could have coached if he wanted a new challenge. Just is a tragic waste of a good human being is my point

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

It isn't easy if you are the one that has a ton of $ thrust on you for being an All Pro for so long ,with all the adjulation, etc. Not trying to make light of it, but c'mon now. Guys like Darrell Green don't say oh well my playing days are over and all I have in my charity work and get depressed. Everyone has a different temperment Smooty, I know. But Junior did have a lot going for him in terms of community involvement, etc. He could have still made a difference somehow. He could have coached if he wanted a new challenge. Just is a tragic waste of a good human being is my point

Maybe it was something else? He did wreck his car a while back over a domestic dispute I believe..

[MTK]

Lorenzo Neal reflects on the pressures of being Junior Seau | ProFootballTalk

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

wow, this is very sad on a lot of different levels. I'm not sure if anyone agrees, but as we learn more and more of the after effects of concussions/brain trauma, it's making it harder to enjoy the NFL as a whole.

Agreed. Last season and before I've contemplated boycotting the NFL for those reasons. I seem to be getting closer to that: a moral right over a game I love.

[Monksdown]

I saw his mom on television last night crying before the caps game. It's just so sad. Concussions or not, i dont care about that right now. I'm just sad that we lost one of those rare good people that can put everything they've got emotionally, mentally, and physically into something.

I'm a huge fan of his love for the game. I wish he had loved himself and his family more though.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

It isn't easy if you are the one that has a ton of $ thrust on you for being an All Pro for so long ,with all the adjulation, etc. Not trying to make light of it, but c'mon now. Guys like Darrell Green don't say oh well my playing days are over and all I have in my charity work and get depressed. Everyone has a different temperment Smooty, I know. But Junior did have a lot going for him in terms of community involvement, etc. He could have still made a difference somehow. He could have coached if he wanted a new challenge. Just is a tragic waste of a good human being is my point

I disagree. I've seen depression and other mental related issues plague and impact the best. Depression requires treatment, effort and luck. Its very naive to think coaching or whatever would've prevented this. You don't just say "oh OK I'm depressed".

The way you talk about depression makes me think you have little understanding about it.

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I disagree. I've seen depression and other mental related issues plague and impact the best. Depression requires treatment, effort and luck. Its very naive to think coaching or whatever would've prevented this. You don't just say "oh OK I'm depressed".

The way you talk about depression makes me think you have little understanding about it.

Events like this remind most of us that we dont understand depression. And because of that, when it happens to us, we dont know what to do about it.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I disagree. I've seen depression and other mental related issues plague and impact the best. Depression requires treatment, effort and luck. Its very naive to think coaching or whatever would've prevented this. You don't just say "oh OK I'm depressed".

The way you talk about depression makes me think you have little understanding about it.

Well said

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Monksdown

Events like this remind most of us that we dont understand depression. And because of that, when it happens to us, we dont know what to do about it.

I'm by no means an expert, but I've been around family/friends who have gone through this type of stuff and read enough medical journals and research to know you can't reach a broad generalization/conclusion for depression. There are many factors that cause and help address depression.

That's what I know and understand.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Will never happen I know you should never say never but theres to much $$$$$ in this game/business.

Sure there will be a movement.

There's big money in the energy industries and there are still insane radical activists protesting to ban every type of energy that's not from the clouds or sun...and energy is much more of a necessity in life than sports.

Some groups want to ban meat. Others, religion.


There will definitely be a liberal movement to ban sports someday, if there's not a quiet one going on already, but we'll crush them. It will never be allowed to happen. Even Congress would not allow it. They think sports are so important that they're spending our tax money right now in an unnecessary trial to see if a pitcher lied about cheating in baseball. They understand the social and economic importance of sports, that's why they're always meddling in it to do what they THINK is good for the sports.

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I read that he is now the 8th member of the Chargers SB Team in 94 to have died.. Weird

Death Is Stalking The 1994 Chargers

Death Is Stalking The 1994 Chargers

It is the plot of the least likely Final Destination sequel ever: members of the 1994 AFC Champion Chargers have been dying premature deaths. Even more premature than the average CTE-doomed football player: with Lew Bush's death last week, seven players from that Super Bowl team have passed away before the age of 45.
• Five months after that Super Bowl, LB David Griggs drove his car off a freeway ramp and slammed into a sign pole. Subsequent tests would show that his blood alcohol level was twice the legal limit.
• In 1996, RB Rodney Culver and his wife were aboard ValuJet FLight 592 from Miami to Atlanta when it crashed into the Everglades, killing all on board.
• In 1998, LB Doug Miller was struck by lightning while camping in Colorado. CPR was being performed on Miller when he was struck again by a second bolt.
• In 2008, C Curtis Whitley was found dead in his trailer in Texas. Whitley had a history of substance abuse and had twice been suspended by the NFL, and toxicology results pointed to an accidental overdose.
• Also in 2008, DE Chris Mims was discovered facedown on the bathroom floor of his Los Angeles apartment. An autopsy revealed an enlarged heart, and Mims weighed 456 pounds at his death.
• Earlier this year, DT Shawn Lee died from cardiac arrest brought on by years of complications with diabetes.
• On Thursday, Bush suffered a heart attack at his home in San Diego. Since retiring in 2002, friends say he had struggled with his weight.
A combination of freak accidents and typical post-football life demises. This is a statistical anomaly, not the spectral fingers of death personified plucking Bobby Ross's squad from this mortal plane. Still: football is a really, really dangerous game.
Update (May 2, 2012): Junior Seau is dead, an apparent suicide.

[CultBrennan59]

Still can't believe he is dead. A great player. My question --as is a lot of our's main question is --"Why?" Why did he kill himself? His life was great. A lot of people who had seen him were saying he seemed normal. Why was killing himself the answer? We are going to find out a lot more in the next upcoming days and weeks.

[MTK]

His life obviously wasn't as great as it appeared from a distance.

A lot of these guys know nothing but playing football, and when their careers are over they're lost.

20 years of getting your head rattled around can't help either.