Redskins OTAs

mbedner3420 · 05-31-2012, 04:50 PM

I wonder if there is any possible way they can trade Cooley.

firstdown · 05-31-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

^ Dude you are the freakin man. Thanks a ton. Good stuff about Jamal Brown, bad news bout Cooley.

Whats going on with Cooley?

JoeRedskin · 05-31-2012, 04:57 PM

As to Cooley, speed was never his thing. I remember when he came out the knock on him was that he was considered to slow to get good separation. If he has slowed down even further, well, that's not good as he will be pretty much a non-factor in the passing game. Even though he is significantly lighter, if Paul can translate his open field WR blocking ability to being able to set the edge as a TE, I can see him replacing Cooley.

Love Captain Chaos - but, if he's got the slows, it just may be the end.

NC_Skins · 05-31-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

I can also tell you Cooley did lose weight, much thinner, but he is SLOW. I really don't see the guy making the team.

Yeah, another "blogger" over on ES that was out at OTAs and this is what he had to say about Cooley.

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Ok guys I promised I'd post what I saw at today's OTA so here goes. Cooley looks like he's in good shape guy looks skinny actually. He wasn't limping and was full go during team drills.

However, and this is going to sting so be ready- he has CLEARLY lost a step (or 5). Cooley was never a "fast" guy and today he looked flat out slow. But don't take my word for it everyone I was standing with from literally every media outlet said the same. Hes healthy but i wonder if he gets what little burst he had back.

Niles on the other hand looks great this early in transition (again dont take my word Shanahan confirmed when we talked to him during the presser). They want Niles to make an impact on the offense no doubt about it. Like I said in the write up he's getting the opportunity it's up to him now.

NC_Skins · 05-31-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

As to Cooley, speed was never his thing. I remember when he came out the knock on him was that he was considered to slow to get good separation. If he has slowed down even further, well, that's not good as he will be pretty much a non-factor in the passing game. Even though he is significantly lighter, if Paul can translate his open field WR blocking ability to being able to set the edge as a TE, I can see him replacing Cooley.

Love Captain Chaos - but, if he's got the slows, it just may be the end.

Cooley primary skill set was being able to find the spots in the zones and break tackles. He never outran anybody, nor did he burn people on 1 on 1 coverages. He'd just find that open spot in the zone, sit in it for the pass and then steam roll over kids for extra yards. If he's even slower than what he was, no bueno.

JoeRedskin · 05-31-2012, 05:07 PM

Not sure why, but really hoping Paul is something special at TE.

Chico23231 · 05-31-2012, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mbedner3420

I wonder if there is any possible way they can trade Cooley.

aging player, knee injury, slow, and big contract...probably not.

NC_Skins · 05-31-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Not sure why, but really hoping Paul is something special at TE.

I think he has the talent to actually surpass Fred Davis. He's already a better blocker and faster.

30gut · 05-31-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

~everything included in the OTA recap

this beer is on me bro, thanks for the recap...

oh...

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Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

I would say, honestly, Cousins could threaten Rex for #2.

Don't play with my emotions, I want more then anything for Cousins to beat out Wrecks and make him go away (i'm fully aware the odds are slim)

MTK · 05-31-2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

This is reaching Offiss-Ramsey levels

lol

Oh man, remember those days?

And how CP was just a 3rd down back?

MTK · 05-31-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I think he has the talent to actually surpass Fred Davis. He's already a better blocker and faster.

Whoa, might want to pump the brakes just a tad.

NC_Skins · 05-31-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Whoa, might want to pump the brakes just a tad.

I didn't say he will, I just said he had the talent to surpass him. Both of what I've said is true. Paul is a better blocker. Paul is faster. That doesn't mean Paul will become a better TE.

30gut · 05-31-2012, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I didn't say he will, I just said he had the talent to surpass him. Both of what I've said is true. Paul is a better blocker. Paul is faster. That doesn't mean Paul will become a better TE.

Paul might be a better blocker in your opinion and that's fine.
But, he has yet to practice one live rep at TE.
Being a good blocker against DBs and the occasional LB is one thing.
Being an end of the line TE that can set the seal the edge in the running game and sometimes block DEs one-on-one is quite another ball of wax.
I'm hopeful for Paul's successful conversion too but imo he's unlikely to ever reach Davis blocking ability on the line much less surpass it.
And I doubt that's how they want to use him anyway.

los panda · 05-31-2012, 07:00 PM

cooley always had borderline offensive tackle speed. his forte is, and always has been, finding holes in zones and breaking tackles

Defensewins · 05-31-2012, 07:13 PM

sounds like if things stay the same, he might be a June cut?

05-31-2012, 04:50 PM	#91
mbedner3420 The Starter Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,900	Re: Redskins OTAs I wonder if there is any possible way they can trade Cooley.

05-31-2012, 04:57 PM	#93
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Redskins OTAs As to Cooley, speed was never his thing. I remember when he came out the knock on him was that he was considered to slow to get good separation. If he has slowed down even further, well, that's not good as he will be pretty much a non-factor in the passing game. Even though he is significantly lighter, if Paul can translate his open field WR blocking ability to being able to set the edge as a TE, I can see him replacing Cooley. Love Captain Chaos - but, if he's got the slows, it just may be the end. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

05-31-2012, 05:07 PM	#96
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Redskins OTAs Not sure why, but really hoping Paul is something special at TE. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

05-31-2012, 07:00 PM	#104
los panda Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,230	Re: Redskins OTAs cooley always had borderline offensive tackle speed. his forte is, and always has been, finding holes in zones and breaking tackles __________________ 9 21 28 33 42 43 44 49 65 81

05-31-2012, 07:13 PM	#105
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,749	Re: Redskins OTAs sounds like if things stay the same, he might be a June cut?

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