Around the NFL...Week 4 Style

[los panda]

my dad grew up in orlando before their were any fl teams. the browns games were broadcast most, how could you now be a fan of jim brown? so he's a die-hard browns fan. i call them my 2nd favorite team. i'm always pulling for them, they've been wallowing in the muck (of avarice - according to jake the snake) since byner got stripped.

they had a good draft this year, have several solid pieces, things are looking up. i'm just glad i picked them last night

[skinsfaninok]

The redskins are definitely not one of the leagues elite teams over the past decade or so, in fact we have been a laughing stock since Dan came around, but still we are like the 2 nd most valuable franchise in the league.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I guess stats wise yes but jsut overall team wise they seem to have it together better then us; espically on DEF. I guess we will see.

My overall comment if you will is how we look at CLE is how the rest of the league looks at us. We are really on par to each other.

The Redskins are just not a good team right now; I love them to death but they are just not a good team.

I'd give the Skins the edge because of their offense.

Just like us, Cleveland is giving up a ton of yards on defense. What is it that you like about their defense?

[los panda]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The redskins are definitely not one of the leagues elite teams over the past decade or so, in fact we have been a laughing stock since Dan came around, but still we are like the 2 nd most valuable franchise in the league.

the patriots jumped us! we're #3 @ $1.6B

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Historically? No way.

Last 10 years yes

Last 20. Sorry.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The redskins are definitely not one of the leagues elite teams over the past decade or so, in fact we have been a laughing stock since Dan came around, but still we are like the 2 nd most valuable franchise in the league.

Now thats a silver lining. No pun intended.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Last 20. Sorry.

At least we've won a division and a few playoff games.... Lol

[punch it in]

We are a really bad team overall for the past two decades with a really rich tradition that blinds us from the fact that as things stand today we are the lions, browns, etc of the league.
Like the song goes "id trade all of my tomorrows for one single yesterday to be holding bobby beathards body next to mine".
Ok that got weird but its true.
All that being said RG3 will make us not only relevant but champions again before he is done imo.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'd give the Skins the edge because of their offense.

Just like us, Cleveland is giving up a ton of yards on defense. What is it that you like about their defense?

It is a 4-3 and their DEF Cord name is not Jim Haslett.

They got after Joe pretty good last night with 4 sacks. Kept Rice in check with 49 yards. Yes they could have doen a better job with Smith and boldin but they kept their team in the game. Held B-more to 33% effinceny on 3rd down.

They have had a harder schedule then us (PHI, CIN, BUF, BAL). We have had 3 cupcakes with another cupcake to be served up Sunday. Yes NO is a cupcake this year.

I am not saying they are head and shoulders above us. Probaly more accurate to say they are on par to us.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mredskins

It is a 4-3 and their DEF Cord name is not Jim Haslett.

They got after Joe pretty good last night with 4 sacks. Kept Rice in check with 49 yards. Yes they could have doen a better job with Smith and boldin but they kept their team in the game. Held B-more to 33% effinceny on 3rd down.

They have had a harder schedule then us (PHI, CIN, BUF, BAL). We have had 3 cupcakes with another cupcake to be served up Sunday. Yes NO is a cupcake this year.

I am not saying they are head and shoulders above us. Probaly more accurate to say they are on par to us.

You could have stopped at its a 4-3 and their def coordinator is not named jim haslett.
Lol

[MTK]

If they had a top 10 defense this might actually be a discussion worth having.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If they had a top 10 defense this might actually be a discussion worth having.

I tried but busy at work to look up their numbers but are their DEF numbers off because they played 4 games vs. our 3?

You prolonged the discussion so you must have thought it had some worth and by the reactions of others it seems like a legit conversation to have.

I think you are discounting their schedule and over valuing our schedule. Rams, Saints and Bengals all have crappy DEF's so our high offense ranking is a bit bloated.

Browns DEF so far:

Ravens (4th Offense)
Eagles (5th Offense)
Cincy (8th O)
Bills (11th O)

They have basically faced 4 top ten offenses.

[mredskins]

Source Data for O rankings:

NFL Stats: by Team Category

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

At least we've won a division and a few playoff games.... Lol

Hail that.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I tried but busy at work to look up their numbers but are their DEF numbers off because they played 4 games vs. our 3?

You prolonged the discussion so you must have thought it had some worth and by the reactions of others it seems like a legit conversation to have.

I think you are discounting their schedule and over valuing our schedule. Rams, Saints and Bengals all have crappy DEF's so our high offense ranking is a bit bloated.

Browns DEF so far:

Ravens (4th Offense)
Eagles (5th Offense)
Cincy (8th O)
Bills (11th O)

They have basically faced 4 top ten offenses.

I was just tying to figure out what's to like about a defense that's almost as bad as ours. We faced the Bengals too and the Saints still have an offense that can move the ball and score at will.