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Re: NFL Awards Show (RGIII is offensive ROY)
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Avery had 60 catches, Hilton had 50 as a rookie, Allen and Fleener combined for 71 catches at the TE spot. In the running game Ballard and Brown combined for over 1200 yards. Luck didn't have to deal with losing his top WR & TE for half the season either. |
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Re: NFL Awards Show (RGIII is offensive ROY)
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I'm not a Luck over RG3 guy at all. I'm just saying he's not some scrub. I think he made those guys better as did RG3 with Afl and Paulsen ETC.
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Re: NFL Awards Show (RGIII is offensive ROY)
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...yeah but he did lose his coach for most of it.
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Re: NFL Awards Show (RGIII is offensive ROY)
Did you notice in Arians' COY award that he specifically mentioned Reggie Wayne, not Andrew Luck? I really thought that was interesting.
I think Arians had as much, if not way more, at keeping that team together and getting them back into games. |
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Re: NFL Awards Show (RGIII is offensive ROY)
Yeah and the guy that stepped in was only head coach of the year so...
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Re: NFL Awards Show (RGIII is offensive ROY)
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I agree ,my point is that could really shake up a rookie QB.
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Re: NFL Awards Show (RGIII is offensive ROY)
I actually think that may have helped a little bit. The extra emotional charge it gave the team. Let's not downplay anything about any of these teams. All three made the playoffs. All three Qbs had help. Hell we were the only one of the three to win the division also.
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I just don't get it. Luck lost to Griffin in the Heismann race, he lost substantially in the ROY race, Griffins stat in passer rating, completion percent, total qbr (which I haven't really bought into yet), TD-INT Ratio, total ints not only beat Lucks, but mostly demolish them. if you dont think Griffin is the better player, right now and the past two years, what would you have to see to change your mind? (serious question)
Luck makes some amazing plays, but his body of work is what it is. And right now its not better than Griffins. |
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Re: NFL Awards Show (RGIII is offensive ROY)
One of the things that went against Luck winning the award was his 18 INTs. Griffin III had only 5. RG3 also plays in a much more tougher division than Luck....and take into consideration all of the rookie records that Robert broke. He deserved the R.O.Y. award.
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Re: NFL Awards Show (RGIII is offensive ROY)
The whole Luck did not have any help is not true at all. Wayne with 100 plus catches, playing the best year of his career, TY Hilton almost had a thousand yards, Avery had 60 catches, the tight ends were both a lot better than Logan Paulsen.
Plus if you have more interceptions than the number of games you played obviously you needed help to win the game. |
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Re: NFL Awards Show (RGIII is offensive ROY)
well, griff looks all healed up. he'll be playing in the spring league
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Re: NFL Awards Show (RGIII is offensive ROY)
@RGIII: “@Niles_Paul84: That's my Quarterback @RGIII 😖😢 *TO voice* lol” 😂😂😂 Man you got me rolling
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The Starter
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Re: NFL Awards Show (RGIII is offensive ROY)
I don't have the links of the RGIII acceptance speech, but its on YouTube now. I actually recorded the whole NFL Honors show. It was like an Academy Awards show for the NFL and you can find RGIII speech, but the funniest and best parts of the whole show are Alex Baldwin's 10 min opening and AP accepting the Fantasy palyer of the year award, which seems very tongue in cheek to me.
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Re: NFL Awards Show (RGIII is offensive ROY)
"It's not what you get for your team, it's what you are willing to give for them." -Griff
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