Election Day

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Definitely not. I'm moderate when it comes to immigration. I think we need to tighten our borders for sure, but also don't think we should be hunting down and shipping out hundreds of thousands of people. Border control is one of the more complex issues for me. While I will agree with one idea that's maybe more liberal, I will also agree with a more conservative idea.

For me, the whole idea was just flat-out stupid. In addition to the logistics, it just flat out wouldn't work.

yeah I don't think we will be hunting down folks either...not for that. Im for an existing path with current folks here that have established families. But I think before you tackle the policy...that border needs to become secure.

I also think if we establish an existing path, then we bring harsher penalties to those who cross illegally. Actual Human traffickers are shown no mercy...they get caught and locked up immediately with no bail. Human trafficking is the scummiest of all scum.

I think a stronger border is a must...maybe not a wall in all places, but defiantly a more secure border...lets use technology.

Its unfortunate, but a lot of folks don't really understand what the people of texas and Arizona go through who live against the border....its bad. Not safe at all. And that's a disservice by the federal government.

[Alvin Walton]

Trumps 100 day action plan.

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/_lan...ontractv02.pdf

Two different items from that I copied and pasted -
★
FOURTH
, begin removing the more than two million
criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel
visas to foreign countries that won’t take them back.

End Illegal Immigration Act
Fully-funds the construction of a wall on our southern
border with the full understanding that the country of
Mexico will be reimbursing the United States for the full cost
of such wall; establishes a two-year mandatory minimum
federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. after
a previous deportation, and a five-year mandatory minimum
federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering for those
with felony convictions, multiple misdemeanor convictions
or two or more prior deportations; also reforms visa rules to
enhance penalties for overstaying and to ensure open jobs
are offered to American workers first.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

yeah I don't think we will be hunting down folks either...not for that. Im for an existing path with current folks here that have established families. But I think before you tackle the policy...that border needs to become secure.

I also think if we establish an existing path, then we bring harsher penalties to those who cross illegally. Actual Human traffickers are shown no mercy...they get caught and locked up immediately with no bail. Human trafficking is the scummiest of all scum.

I think a stronger border is a must...maybe not a wall in all places, but defiantly a more secure border...lets use technology.

Its unfortunate, but a lot of folks don't really understand what the people of texas and Arizona go through who live against the border....its bad. Not safe at all. And that's a disservice by the federal government.

All of this definitely sounds reasonable to me. I guess when it's all said and done, it'll be a learning moment for everyone. My biggest fear is him doing irreparable damage (some I think he has already done) during his four years that would take longer than my lifetime to undo.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

All of this definitely sounds reasonable to me. I guess when it's all said and done, it'll be a learning moment for everyone. My biggest fear is him doing irreparable damage (some I think he has already done) during his four years that would take longer than my lifetime to undo.

Just curious - what damage do you think he has already done?

[CRedskinsRule]

The great wall of China stands as one of the new 7 wonders of the world and as a testament to a country defending it's borders from an onslaught. European cities celebrate their castle walls and moats, which again were built as defensive measures. I don't know that we need a physical wall, but the outrage over the concept is purely ridiculous.

[Alvin Walton]

If he made the wall big enough it could hold casinos and hotels.
The hotels could have spotting scopes on the room balconies and you could get a casino voucher for every illegal you spotted.
5 X pay on the blackjack tables. Woohoo!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

If he made the wall big enough it could hold casinos and hotels.

The hotels could have spotting scopes on the room balconies and you could get a casino voucher for every illegal you spotted.

5 X pay on the blackjack tables. Woohoo!

And when they go bankrupt we will make those Mexicans pay for it!

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Worst part of all of this:

No taco truck on every corner.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

International opinion. Regardless of how much the international community knows about our politics, they at least outwardly see the things he's said and done. I imagine if we just saw the highlights of someone like him elsewhere, we'd probably lose a lot of respect for those who voted him in.

EDIT: He also divided this country with a lot of hate. We've beaten that horse to death, but I've never seen Americans pitted against each other like this. Just an example from last night: where I work had a support meeting for foreign students and LGBT students. A few other students PROTESTED this meeting yelling liberal pussies to them. They see that it's OK their President can do it, so it's OK for them to do it too.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

International opinion. Regardless of how much the international community knows about our politics, they at least outwardly see the things he's said and done. I imagine if we just saw the highlights of someone like him elsewhere, we'd probably lose a lot of respect for those who voted him in.

EDIT: He also divided this country with a lot of hate. We've beaten that horse to death, but I've never seen Americans pitted against each other like this. Just an example from last night: where I work had a support meeting for foreign students and LGBT students. A few other students PROTESTED this meeting yelling liberal pussies to them. They see that it's OK their President can do it, so it's OK for them to do it too.

Yikes!

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

A few other students PROTESTED this meeting yelling liberal pussies to them. They see that it's OK their President can do it, so it's OK for them to do it too.

For many of them, this is what also attracted them to Trump. He wasn't politically correct and openly voiced their inner feelings. He was a "straight talker" in their minds, and in doing so, he was awarded the Presidency seat.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

For many of them, this is what also attracted them to Trump. He wasn't politically correct and openly voiced their inner feelings. He was a "straight talker" in their minds, and in doing so, he was awarded the Presidency seat.

When those inner feelings are woven with hate and ignorance guess what Houston?
I am not saying you felt this way, just piggy backing off of your posts.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

When those inner feelings are woven with hate and ignorance guess what Houston?
I am not saying you felt this way, just piggy backing off of your posts.

To a racist and bigot, they don't see themselves as the problem. They see the other person as the problem.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

To a racist and bigot, they don't see themselves as the problem. They see the other person as the problem.

Thats a problem. Lol

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Hopefully just isolated, but I think at least initially there's going to be a lot of shitty stuff going on with both sides. This University is 90% white, rich kids. The freshmen come in driving brand new luxury cars. I can't say this shocks me that much. For my wife who works in Development here, it makes it a little extra hard for her to want to raise money for kids acting like that.