NFL week 12

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by calia

He was also 9 picks higher than Haskins. And when you factor in that there are only a handful of positions that are usually in the top 15, that’s consequential. Also, we ended the Haskins experiment fairly quickly. Jones may suck for far longer. Or at least, I hope so.


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LOL, he played well against Washington no wonder you all want him gone.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Where did you get that idea? I said he going at the end of this year .Just telling the facts that's all .Barkley I love.. ..#2 not that much but I love the kid . Jones I have like from day one. First he has had different HCs and OCs every year and the lack of weapons hasn't helped him but the kid can play and he has a good arm. Your Coach's wanted him till your Owner stepped in. DG has made mistakes but he did some good and he got a great deal for Odell.

Your "facts" just sound like excuses, weak ones at that.

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Originally Posted by mooby

Big Ben should've retired last year. Pride is a tough pill to swallow apparently - he had to waste the Steelers season just because he wasn't ready to walk away.

Thats on the organization imo. They should have had a plan in place by now. Rudolph and Dick Haskins?

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Lets not forget we have two starters on IR with season ending injuries .The O line wasn't great but serviceable till they went out .Jones is an NFL QB , ..no one is saying elite but he's fine.

G-1, what is your definition of fine? A guy with a propensity for turnovers and zero ability to carry a team….ever? No way he is “fine” Especially as Matty pointed out where you drafted him. He is a solid backup quarterback. Nothing more. Nothing less. And cancer or not, plan to retire or not , Gettleman was getting axed after this year.

If I was Gettleman I would have been hinting at retiring two years ago too. Because he knew he was not getting the job done. He has been an absolute train wreck. You might be the only Giants fan I know who defends him or Jones. And I know a shit ton of Giants fans.

How you defend Jones is crazy. Yeah Haskins is worse. He got fuckin booted and you wont find a poster on this board who ever defended him. I dont know what u see in Jones. He is awful. Beating the WFT does not make him good. Not even close. That being said I hope he sticks around for a while.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Lets not forget we have two starters on IR with season ending injuries .The O line wasn't great but serviceable till they went out .Jones is an NFL QB , ..no one is saying elite but he's fine.

He's fine for what? Not NFL starter. fine. NFL back up? Yeah he is fine for that..

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Wasn't ignored. You sign the number one rated FA tackle available and you draft a guard Hernandez in 20018 ,2020 we took two OT and a Guard. Ignored no , picks sucked , yes.

Fair enough. Not ignored, just completely mismanaged. Either way its on the GM.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

G-1, what is your definition of fine? A guy with a propensity for turnovers and zero ability to carry a team….ever? No way he is “fine” Especially as Matty pointed out where you drafted him. He is a solid backup quarterback. Nothing more. Nothing less. And cancer or not, plan to retire or not , Gettleman was getting axed after this year.

If I was Gettleman I would have been hinting at retiring two years ago too. Because he knew he was not getting the job done. He has been an absolute train wreck. You might be the only Giants fan I know who defends him or Jones. And I know a shit ton of Giants fans.

How you defend Jones is crazy. Yeah Haskins is worse. He got fuckin booted and you wont find a poster on this board who ever defended him. I dont know what u see in Jones. He is awful. Beating the WFT does not make him good. Not even close. That being said I hope he sticks around for a while.

The Turnover thing has been addresses .Look the Giants have way more problems then Jones.

[skinsfaninok]

Here's how wild the NFL is..

Last yr Stefanski was regarded as a genius mind and the Browns were a SB team.. This yr they are 6-6 and that O sucks ass..

It's a marathon not a sprint.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Giantone

The Turnover thing has been addresses .Look the Giants have way more problems then Jones.

Perhaps, but he is on the problem list somewhere. He's certainly not living up to his draft status. He was drafted to be a franchise QB, not a JAG.

[Chico23231]

Gettleman needs to go ahead and give Saquon that bigly extension before he “retires” as well. Because that wasn’t a mistake either, right G1?

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Originally Posted by Giantone

The Turnover thing has been addresses .Look the Giants have way more problems then Jones.

Addressing does not equal fixing. He threw two pics two weeks ago? He has 7 int’s and 5 fumbles on the year. On pace for more than last year. I sometimes feel like you are talking about a different guy. Lol.

Heineke has 9 int’s but he is clutch. Jones is not. At all. Plus Heineke was not a top ten pick.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Addressing does not equal fixing. He threw two pics two weeks ago? He has 7 int’s and 5 fumbles on the year. On pace for more than last year. I sometimes feel like you are talking about a different guy. Lol.

Heineke has 9 int’s but he is clutch. Jones is not. At all. Plus Heineke was not a top ten pick.

27th in RZ efficiency, 23rd in total points

Heinike has been good the past 2 games, I root for him but hes limited.

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Originally Posted by SunnySide

27th in RZ efficiency, 23rd in total points

Heinike has been good the past 2 games, I root for him but hes limited.

Clutch doesn’t really equal RZ efficiency. Certainly doesn’t equal total points. That is great not clutch. Clutch is we need a score to win the game. Heineke would be a guy I want on the field. Jones wouldn’t be. My point was they are both limited but Heineke got that mojo when you need it at least.

I wish we could hypnotize Heineke to always think there is a minute and a half left in the game and we are down 6.

[CRedskinsRule]

Cowboys HC plus others in Covid protocol for the Saints game.

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Addressing does not equal fixing. He threw two pics two weeks ago? He has 7 int’s and 5 fumbles on the year. On pace for more than last year. I sometimes feel like you are talking about a different guy. Lol.

Heineke has 9 int’s but he is clutch. Jones is not. At all. Plus Heineke was not a top ten pick.

First I never mention Heineke ,3of Jones INTs are on the receives not Jones ...yeah I know how it works but when it goes in and then out of their hands. Again I like the kid he takes his hits ,the Giant fans wanted someone more mobile then Eli but no one thought he would be their #1 rusher.