Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)

[RedskinNation21]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

You can continue thinking the coaching staff owes you something if you'd like, but I'm afraid you're barking up the wrong tree. Comparing Microsoft to football is like comparing apples and anything else irrelevant.

Damn straight they owe us an explanation, Its our team not theirs. Where are their salaries coming from. They are paid to win games but tell us why without some away from the truth answer. This is the Washington Redskins not the joe gibbs or gw redskins. Thats horse crap....ITS OUR TEAM...without us they would be moving to L.A.....

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by RedskinNation21

Damn straight they owe us an explanation, Its our team not theirs. Where are their salaries coming from. They are paid to win games but tell us why without some away from the truth answer. This is the Washington Redskins not the joe gibbs or gw redskins. Thats horse crap....ITS OUR TEAM...without us they would be moving to L.A.....

They dont wanna hear that but i agree 100% with you...

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

You can continue thinking the coaching staff owes you something if you'd like, but I'm afraid you're barking up the wrong tree. Comparing Microsoft to football is like comparing apples and anything else irrelevant.

Once again, the NFL is a business first and foremost. Do you think the NFL is there just so a bunch of guys can go out on the field and toss the ball around? No, it's there to make money by selling it's product, which is the team, and it's byproducts which is it's merchandise, tickets, and advertising space. And that money comes from nowhere else but the fans.

If we weren't supposed to know anything about the state of the team other than what we see on Sundays, they wouldn't bother producing a hundred different shows about the NFL and Redskins(locally), and newspapers and radio shows wouldn't bother reporting on team related issues. Now of course no one can force the coaches to divulge information to us, just as no one can force Bill Gates to offer tech support for his product, but if you plan on having repeat customers, or long time fans to generate continued revenue for the future, you do little things like that to appease them. If it got to a point where people stopped buying the tickets and merchandise, things would change because it would be taking money out of Snyders pocket. Luckily for him, that won't happen in any time soon because for some reason, we blindly follow and love the Redskins, in spite of a decade of big spending, false hope, empty promises, and sub par seasons.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

If we weren't supposed to know anything about the state of the team other than what we see on Sundays, they wouldn't bother producing a hundred different shows about the NFL and Redskins(locally), and newspapers and radio shows wouldn't bother reporting on team related issues. Now of course no one can force the coaches to divulge information to us, just as no one can force Bill Gates to offer tech support for his product, but if you plan on having repeat customers, or long time fans to generate continued revenue for the future, you do little things like that to appease them. If it got to a point where people stopped buying the tickets and merchandise, things would change because it would be taking money out of Snyders pocket. Luckily for him, that won't happen in any time soon because for some reason, we blindly follow and love the Redskins, in spite of a decade of big spending, false hope, empty promises, and sub par seasons.

two points, first, bill gates doesn't give tech support to anyone personally, he has people that do that for him. He also is allowed to keep his clap shut about anything he wants, and it doesn't really affect the MS bottom line.

You say the nfl needs to appease fans, but honestly, how many people here are cancelling their season tickets and are going to stop watching the games because one coach wouldn't talk extensively about the benching of a single player.... I don't see any hands up.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

There have been so many pro's and con's WOW!!!! When all the dust clears, I'm truly interested in seeing what the final LaVar outcome is going to be.

Eighteen months ago JG and GW were the sweetest thing since sugar, now with the benching of one overated player they no longer know what they're doing. I find this all very difficult to comprehend. I say overated because there are a lot of inflated opinions relative to LaVar. Before long we'll be ready to dismiss both JG and GW because we know more about the game and who should, and should not be playing.

People, this coaching staff does not owe us any explanations "PERIOD" The only one they have to answer too is DS and if he's not complaining, the only thing we pay to do is watch. If you don't want to watch you don't have too. I certainly hope JG GW and the rest of the coaching staff does not read this stuff because they probably would be ready to leave town after witnessing such distrust.

Mr. Dan Snyder!! You played Chess with LaVar on the plane ride, the Warden cannot play games with the inmates. (Just Kidding) However there is an old saying "If you play with a Puppy, he'll lick you in the face". I know JG has warned you about that.

No, it's not that they don't what they are doing. I don't believe any rational Skins fan would come to that conclusion, unless they are being emotional. Gibbs and Williams definitely know what they are doing - for sure.

Here's the issue at hand: Is there more to it than what we are being told? Yes, I've seen all the Gregg Williams, Joe Gibbs, and LaVar interviews. (And no, they don't owe us any explanation either) - but it has to be more than he doesn't know the system or he doesn't practice well. That won't fly either.

[wolfeskins]

i say they DO owe us, the fans, an explanation. we buy the jerseys and the tickets and all the other skins stuff. we go to the games ,we watch on tv , we hoot and haller. the least they can do is tell us the truth.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i say they DO owe us, the fans, an explanation. we buy the jerseys and the tickets and all the other skins stuff. we go to the games ,we watch on tv , we hoot and haller. the least they can do is tell us the truth.

Maybe you need to check and see what everyone has said

[wolfeskins]

LONGETIMEFAN,
who's everyone and i don't like fishing through rubbish

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

People, this coaching staff does not owe us any explanations "PERIOD" The only one they have to answer too is DS and if he's not complaining, the only thing we pay to do is watch. If you don't want to watch you don't have too. I certainly hope JG GW and the rest of the coaching staff does not read this stuff because they probably would be ready to leave town after witnessing such distrust.

First of all, I don't think anyone said that Gibbs and Williams don't know what they're doing. I just happen to think that they're leaving out parts of the truth to keep from causing turmoil with the rest of the team and the fans. You all act like this can't be the case and they would never lie, but coaches do this all the time during the season to avoid bigger problems.

Secondly, if you think the coaching staff does not owe us the truth, and they only have to answer to Snyder, you know nothing about business. The NFL is a 100% consumer based business. Does, Daniel Snyder buy 90,000+ tickets for seats at FedEx field on Sundays? Does he buy all the products that advertisers are selling during game commercials? No, we the fans do. This is further proven by the fact that there are roughly 10,000 shows about the Redskins on in any given week during the season in the Washington area. Snyder is the owner, and ultimately who the coaches have to answer to, but if we, the consumers are pissed off, he loses money. Saying that they don't owe us anything is like saying Microsoft doesn't owe you any updates or tech support when they sell you a crappy product.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Secondly, if you think the coaching staff does not owe us the truth, and they only have to answer to Snyder, you know nothing about business.

Saying that they don't owe us anything is like saying Microsoft doesn't owe you any updates or tech support when they sell you a crappy product.

if you've ever worked in a business's marketing department, you'd know that telling the truth isn't important to most companies, as long as they can sell. Danny can sell out with 5-11 and 6-10 teams, with honest or dishonest coaches (whatever your opinion may be)... the quality of the product is mainly derived from wins and losses anyways, not whether the coaches decide to hold three hour pow-wows over every personnel decision they make.

and comparing anyone to microoft is silly they really DON'T owe you anything beyond the crappy product. If windows update wasn't available, they'd still be making billions.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by That Guy

Danny can sell out with 5-11 and 6-10 teams, with honest or dishonest coaches (whatever your opinion may be)...

Yeah, as much as I despise Snyder as the Redskins owner, he's actually one of my role models in business. I still haven't figured out how he's managed to turn the Skins into the most profitable franchise in sports, when they've had mediocre and worse seasons for his entire tenure. It must be the hype machine he creates every off season.

[#56fanatic]

Yes he is a marketing genious, but when it comes to players he is a little tyrant. To do what they are doing w/ Lavar is just plain stupid. I love the Redskins, always will, but how can us fans continue to buy jersey after jersey if they keep going to other teams in 3 years. I know its the way the NFL is, but when are our Redskins going to stay OUR REDSKINS?

[That Guy]

I agree with everyone who said that the coaching staff doen't owe us anything... well, except a competitive team that doesn't quit and more wins than losses

still, i heard lavar on radio a couple minutes ago and he said he had no idea why he wasn't playing, no one's told him why he's not playing, and he's not getting a chance to prove that he can play. Either he's saving face or there's a serious disconnect...

Lots have claimed that GW said its practice performance (per his interview), end of discussion. If that's so, then why have GW and JG said that he'll be playing more EVERY single time they're asked, only to leave him on the bench. Why does he go on the radio an talk about the lack of communication and how he's participating as much as anyone in the meetings and doing whatever is asked, but still being left in the dark about whats expected of him.

It IS confusing because lavar's interviews are a lot different from the GW/JG ones, and while you'd think lavar is just saving face, he's the one saying he's not sure if he'll play while JG/GW are saying he will (and then he sits on the bench).

I personally don't care if he plays our not. I think he'd help the team, but the D was fine without him, and while its let down this year, our corners (and possibly pierce) have more to do with that than lavar.

[MTK]

So much for LaVar not bitching... this is not going to end well.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101101908.html

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So much for LaVar not bitching... this is not going to end well.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101101908.html

I agree this isn't going to end well, but I don't see how this qualifies as "bitching". I stand by my original statement that that Lavar has not been disruptive about this. Can anyone honestly say that his comments are inappropriate? No, you can't. He's willing to play special teams, just to get a chance to play and prove himself. The only possible comment is where he says "I'm to the point now that it's overshadowing what we're doing." But that's just a statement of reality - this thing is overshadowing what the Skins are doing this season.

Bottom line is that Gibbs/GW feel that Lavar off the field makes the team better than him on the field. This doesn't require a conspiracy theory. Their reasons may be personal, professional, organizational, or some combination. However, it is starting to look like there is a personal issue in this.