WFT's Off-Season Thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

When was the last time the “all in shoot for the stars trade” has worked out for us?

In all fairness it was never for a guy like Rodgers.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Just like D Watson (before the curtain was pulled back), if Rodgers wants out - ultimately he'll get what he wants.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

When was the last time the “all in shoot for the stars trade” has worked out for us?

I can understand being trigger shy no doubt. The three most recent trades that come to mind were McNabb, RG3, and Alex Smith. They all ended pretty poorly for us. McNabb was flat out bad. 2012 was magical until RG3 tried to be a pocket passer in the Seattle playoff game and basically ended his career. I still think I had reservations about his longevity but it is hard to think back a decade. The Alex Smith trade looked ok. We were winning the division and while we weren't wowing statistically. Alex Smith's leadership is undeniable but that was a fluke accident.

IDK I think I would pull the trigger on Rodgers far more of a for sure thing than any of those three QBs. I look at Tampa they went 7-9 basically same team just add Brady and a bit of Gronk and suddenly Super Bowl Champs and favorites this year.

If we had Rodgers we would be in the NFC title game next year no doubt in my mind.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Then how was tagging him a good move ?
Ok, I'll let it go at some point, promise...

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I concur.
The only scenario I see is if we trade him (ha, ha) or don't intend to sign high priced FAs next year.
This year we might get no comp because our other high-priced FAs would probably cancel him out.
I don't think the FO is being that clever. I think they looked at a roster with 20 holes on it, and couldn't address everything, so paid Scherff and will address G next year if he leaves. Keep in mind, FO could not know Flowers would be available for certain. Not defending the decision, but that's what I think thought process was. Basically, never-healthy Scherff wants a deal that pays about $7M less, on average, of what Jackson AND Samuel make combined.
I think next year you clear Collins and Scherff off books and lock up Allen and Payne long term.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I can understand being trigger shy no doubt. The three most recent trades that come to mind were McNabb, RG3, and Alex Smith. They all ended pretty poorly for us. McNabb was flat out bad. 2012 was magical until RG3 tried to be a pocket passer in the Seattle playoff game and basically ended his career. I still think I had reservations about his longevity but it is hard to think back a decade. The Alex Smith trade looked ok. We were winning the division and while we weren't wowing statistically. Alex Smith's leadership is undeniable but that was a fluke accident.

IDK I think I would pull the trigger on Rodgers far more of a for sure thing than any of those three QBs. I look at Tampa they went 7-9 basically same team just add Brady and a bit of Gronk and suddenly Super Bowl Champs and favorites this year.

If we had Rodgers we would be in the NFC title game next year no doubt in my mind.

Rodgers won't be available unless someone makes GB a PREPOSTEROUS offer. We would be in a 3-8 team bidding war. The cost would be ridiculous. Anyone who thinks GB budging is dreaming. They'll let him sit and eat the shitburger, period.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Honestly nothing will replace Redskins... Redwolves, Warriors , Wolves etc are all dumb.

The Washington Football Team is clean and timeless, put the W on the helmet and call it done.

If you were going to go lame, like most of those names, go Washington Whigs and hand out colonial wigs at games. LOL. :-(

[OnceWeWereKings]

The only reason i wouldnt be all in for a rodgers trade is that we could well trade away picks that exist longer than his tenure would be. Rodgers, while great, is no spring chicken. at 38, who knows how many years he has left. He is one of my favorite current players to watch, and i root for him...but i dont know that i would want to mortgage any type of future for a 38 year old qb. couple in a camp and a new system and all new teammates for him to get acclimated to...i just dont think it would be worth it. how crazy would it be to have a 2023 2nd or third round pick going to gb, when rodgers retired the year before. that would eat me up inside...unless he won a sb with us. but thats a huge leap of faith as we were still only 7-9 last year.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

The only reason i wouldnt be all in for a rodgers trade is that we could well trade away picks that exist longer than his tenure would be. Rodgers, while great, is no spring chicken. at 38, who knows how many years he has left. He is one of my favorite current players to watch, and i root for him...but i dont know that i would want to mortgage any type of future for a 38 year old qb. couple in a camp and a new system and all new teammates for him to get acclimated to...i just dont think it would be worth it. how crazy would it be to have a 2023 2nd or third round pick going to gb, when rodgers retired the year before. that would eat me up inside...unless he won a sb with us. but thats a huge leap of faith as we were still only 7-9 last year.

We share the same concerns about trading for Rodgers.. Granted, Rodgers is one of the best QBs in NFL history and he looks like he can play for next few years but the fact that he is already considering retirement is a concern. Rodgers would need to convince me that he will play longer than than next 1-2 years, in order for me to make a trade offer.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

We share the same concerns about trading for Rodgers.. Granted, Rodgers is one of the best QBs in NFL history and he looks like he can play for next few years but the fact that he is already considering retirement is a concern. Rodgers would need to convince me that he will play longer than than next 1-2 years, in order for me to make a trade offer.

This

[sdskinsfan2001]

And that!

[AnonEmouse]

I have to ask the question why Rodgers would come here, given other choices? He's obviously going to be looking for a high profile team that gives him the chance at another SB, so that doesn't rule us out but it doesn't give us any edge over other teams the at would be in the running. I agree he would be a good target, but I don't think we're a target for him.

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

I have to ask the question why Rodgers would come here, given other choices? He's obviously going to be looking for a high profile team that gives him the chance at another SB, so that doesn't rule us out but it doesn't give us any edge over other teams the at would be in the running. I agree he would be a good target, but I don't think we're a target for him.

We’re a better target than the Broncos and Raiders.

[Pervis_Griffith]

Originally Posted by Scalper

I concur.
The only scenario I see is if we trade him (ha, ha) or don't intend to sign high priced FAs next year.
This year we might get no comp because our other high-priced FAs would probably cancel him out.
I don't think the FO is being that clever. I think they looked at a roster with 20 holes on it, and couldn't address everything, so paid Scherff and will address G next year if he leaves. Keep in mind, FO could not know Flowers would be available for certain. Not defending the decision, but that's what I think thought process was. Basically, never-healthy Scherff wants a deal that pays about $7M less, on average, of what Jackson AND Samuel make combined.
I think next year you clear Collins and Scherff off books and lock up Allen and Payne long term.

I sure hope this happens ....

Nothing against Scherff, but keeping that D-Line in tact as long as possible, without blowing up your entire salary cap, should be the priority.

And .... I assume that will be the case, given Rivera's defensive back ground.

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

We’re a better target than the Broncos and Raiders.

Denver maybe not, but LV wouldn't be that far from LA to suit his Mrs. Are they just a top QB away? Maybe not but it's a good market for him to move to and gets him away from the tundra of nothing else. 😁

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

I have to ask the question why Rodgers would come here, given other choices? He's obviously going to be looking for a high profile team that gives him the chance at another SB, so that doesn't rule us out but it doesn't give us any edge over other teams the at would be in the running. I agree he would be a good target, but I don't think we're a target for him.

He is going to want somewhere glamorous for wife. But what take chance on THE DAN when other teams have long history of competence. Too great a risk for end of career. Won't matter, GB isn't trading him.