Who is Kirk Cousins?

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by MTK

People still hanging on RGIII's nuts amaze me. He was a hazard to himself, it was quite obvious after that Detroit preseason game that he just wasn't making the transition to being a drop back passer and he was holding back the entire franchise. Making the move to Kirk and showing that draft status was no longer going to mean anything around here was a huge move, both on the field and in the locker room.

Whats scary is RG3 couldn't read base defenses. He was allowing himself to get smashed in a preseason game because of his lack of knowledge. I was worried for his health in a 16 game season

[Meks]

Originally Posted by MTK

People still hanging on RGIII's nuts amaze me. He was a hazard to himself, it was quite obvious after that Detroit preseason game that he just wasn't making the transition to being a drop back passer and he was holding back the entire franchise. Making the move to Kirk and showing that draft status was no longer going to mean anything around here was a huge move, both on the field and in the locker room.

This, to a T

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Dude you gotta stop. You reaalllly have to stop. When Griff gets let go after the season and some team takes a waiver on him - and he doesnt start there either what will you say? Do you honestly think Robert Griffin will be a starting qb in this league ever again?
JC sucked. JC got nervous in big situations. Deer in the headlights. Cousins thrives in those situations. See the Eagles game, the Bucs game, the Giants game. JC did not run a wco. He checked down out of pure panic. Cousins runs a wco. It is how it is designed to run.

I agree JC sucked but he's checking down like KC and you are loving it. KC is a .500 QB at best he's a backup IMO. See that's your problem I tell you its my opinion and you want me to think like you. The only QB we have on our roster that ever put fear in an opposing teams Defense was RGIII KC does not do that. We have been a bad team for the last 20 years and now we get happy when we are close to being .500.

[NYCskinfan82]

No one has ever walked of the field and said I don't want to face KC twice a year. KC has gotten better but he's NOT the answer IMO.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

No one has ever walked of the field and said I don't want to face KC twice a year. KC has gotten better but he's NOT the answer IMO.

And nobody is ever going to walk off the field and say that about Griff ever again. Go buy RG-3's greatest hits dvd, pour yourself a glass of egg nog, and get the hell over it.
Cousins is coming into his own. Does he strike fear in opponents like Griff did for a handful of weeks three years ago? No. He is still learning and progressing. Griff at one point in time was in an offense that fit his skill set and excelled between injuries. The league caught on and adapted. Griff did not.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

I agree JC sucked but he's checking down like KC and you are loving it. KC is a .500 QB at best he's a backup IMO. See that's your problem I tell you its my opinion and you want me to think like you. The only QB we have on our roster that ever put fear in an opposing teams Defense was RGIII KC does not do that. We have been a bad team for the last 20 years and now we get happy when we are close to being .500.

I dont care if u think like me or not. This is a team sport. Its not about one guy. If u think KC is a backup than u r not really paying attention to this team or the league in general.

[12thMan]

Hey, guys. Long time no hear. Just dropping by. Happy Holidays! I love this thread. LOL

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Hey, guys. Long time no hear. Just dropping by. Happy Holidays! I love this thread. LOL

Dude seriously...things are on the up, comeback soon

[MTK]

You don't a need a QB that strikes fear in a defense. There's only a couple of truly elite guys in the league these days that do that.

KC is solid enough and has shown enough growth that we can feel good about moving forward and building around him. The guy is on pace for 4000+ yards and 20+ TDs, he's cut down on the turnovers, and he could possibly win a division title. WTF is there to complain about??

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Hey, guys. Long time no hear. Just dropping by. Happy Holidays! I love this thread. LOL

Where u been? Don't be a stranger.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by MTK

Where u been? Don't be a stranger.

I'm lame. No rhyme or reason. I hope we can make the playoffs.

[rocnrik]

Guys ..its time to enjoy whatever good happens to this team! lets everybody get on board for the rest of season and think positive!

[mooby]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Hey, guys. Long time no hear. Just dropping by. Happy Holidays! I love this thread. LOL

Come back 12th, we're outnumbered!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

You don't a need a QB that strikes fear in a defense. There's only a couple of truly elite guys in the league these days that do that.



KC is solid enough and has shown enough growth that we can feel good about moving forward and building around him. The guy is on pace for 4000+ yards and 20+ TDs, he's cut down on the turnovers, and he could possibly win a division title. WTF is there to complain about??

He is not on sports center top ten plays nearly as much as RG-3 was during that run in 2012, AND, he doesn't have an awesome nickname like RG-3, AND, I spent alot of money on that RG-3 jersey, AND last but certainly not least, he isnt RG-3!

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Whats scary is RG3 couldn't read base defenses. He was allowing himself to get smashed in a preseason game because of his lack of knowledge. I was worried for his health in a 16 game season

You don't have to stop. He didn't recognize defensive alignments, he had no pocket presence, he held the ball way too long. He couldn't go through his progressions. He never felt the pressure. His ball security rivaled Matt Jones. He threw off his back foot. He turned 3 step drops into 5 and 7 step drops. He had no concept of a timing play whatsoever. He wasn't as fast after the 2nd acl tear. He tried using the media to his advantage. He never learned or progressed, in fact it appears he regressed by 2014. He said things like "I want to be a pocket passer" despite the fact that the gimmick read option was the best thing he had going for him. Yet somehow after all that he's still our best option because Kirk Cousins threw a pick.