Campbell's numbers dont lie

[over the mountain]

i think he said 24% of JCs passes are behind the line of scrimmage and 79% dont travel past 10 yds in the air.

JC's pass yds really improved last night due to a couple 2 yd passes that turned into 20+ yd pass plays (rock had a 50 yd, mason and ganther had a 20+).

another thing jaws said that caught my attention was on that sack JC took at the end of the 1st quarter or beginning of the second quarter when a giants LB came untouched right up the middle. jaws said JC had no time at all but he also said JC has to see that coming right up the middle.

1st play for TC, he reviews the giants D, adjusts the rb to his right side for protection, then we got that illegal snap call. JC plays tough but i never see him scanning the D, calling things out and making any adjustments. TC's first play he does it. eli was calling out our D and potential blitzers all game. rabach used to do that pretty well 3 years ago before (according to reports beginning of last year) zorn gave that duty of calling blocking assignments to JC and not rabach. now i dont even know if we cal out blockers or adjust our blocking, if JC doesnt like what he sees he calls a timeout.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i think he said 24% of JCs passes are behind the line of scrimmage and 79% dont travel past 10 yds in the air.

JC's pass yds really improved last night due to a couple 2 yd passes that turned into 20+ yd pass plays (rock had a 50 yd, mason and ganther had a 20+).

another thing jaws said that caught my attention was on that sack JC took at the end of the 1st quarter or beginning of the second quarter when a giants LB came untouched right up the middle. jaws said JC had no time at all but he also said JC has to see that coming right up the middle.

1st play for TC, he reviews the giants D, adjusts the rb to his right side for protection, then we got that illegal snap call. JC plays tough but i never see him scanning the D, calling things out and making any adjustments. TC's first play he does it. eli was calling out our D and potential blitzers all game. rabach used to do that pretty well 3 years ago before (according to reports beginning of last year) zorn gave that duty of calling blocking assignments to JC and not rabach. now i dont even know if we cal out blockers or adjust our blocking, if JC doesnt like what he sees he calls a timeout.

I thought he was referring to Ganther who needed to see that and pick up the free man.

JC makes adjustments, not sure why people think he doesn't or don't see them.

[CRedskinsRule]

Thanks for the stats Buster.

I hope JC comes back, at least while we groom a new qb. Sanchez does get a plus for his team getting into the playoffs, but his play was not the difference in making that happen.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Thanks for the stats Buster.

I hope JC comes back, at least while we groom a new qb. Sanchez does get a plus for his team getting into the playoffs, but his play was not the difference in making that happen.

Thank you.

I just hope we do not blow our #5 pick on Bradford. We need the best OT in the draft with that pick, I won't settle for anyone else. If we do not build up the line to be the best it can possibly be, which means using the Round 1 pick on the line, any QB we put in there will be beaten and battered like JC was this year. Bradford won't survive physically like Campbell did. He seems fragile and dislocates his shoulders from sneezing. He may not be able to stay healthy with any team in the NFL, but if he is behind a Redskins line that is not repaired, his career will be short and unsuccessful. I have faith that Allen will not screw our draft up like Cerrato. Vinny made some great picks, Fred Davis, Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly, Chris Horton and others are the most recent, but his annual ignoring of the O-line all nut nullifies their contributions to the team and that's just unacceptable.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Buster

Thank you.

I just hope we do not blow our #5 pick on Bradford. We need the best OT in the draft with that pick, I won't settle for anyone else. If we do not build up the line to be the best it can possibly be, which means using the Round 1 pick on the line, any QB we put in there will be beaten and battered like JC was this year. Bradford won't survive physically like Campbell did. He seems fragile and dislocates his shoulders from sneezing. He may not be able to stay healthy with any team in the NFL, but if he is behind a Redskins line that is not repaired, his career will be short and unsuccessful. I have faith that Allen will not screw our draft up like Cerrato. Vinny made some great picks, Fred Davis, Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly, Chris Horton and others are the most recent, but his annual ignoring of the O-line all nut nullifies their contributions to the team and that's just unacceptable.

100% agree, VC had an inexplicable avoidance system in place for drafting OL, and that was one of a few tragic flaws. I really want to see a solid plan for the line, draft -FA- combination, just so we know that it is being addressed competently. That is where the off season discussion needs to be focused.

[MonkFan4Life]

Fellas, well Jason Campbell came through and won me m $100 for throwing 20 touchdowns. He is still sorry as shit. That's my opinion but I know some of you feel like he can be a winner. I don't.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

Fellas, well Jason Campbell came through and won me m $100 for throwing 20 touchdowns. He is still sorry as shit. That's my opinion but I know some of you feel like he can be a winner. I don't.

Fine analysis.

[SolidSnake84]

I think a team can win with JC, but everything else has to be perfect for him to succeed. He can't win you the game on his arm. But he can be a good game manager when everything is going well around him.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I think a team can win with JC, but everything else has to be perfect for him to succeed. He can't win you the game on his arm. But he can be a good game manager when everything is going well around him.

Like Mark Rypien? He never really had success anywhere else, but with a core of good WRs and an offensive line, the Redskins were one of the most explosive offenses in the history of the game.

We have plenty of targets for Campbell. We need the protection and I believe the offense can start winning games rather than relying on the defense to win every game, which is tough when they're on the field far longer than they should be.

[SolidSnake84]

agree on every point. Still not sold that JC is a franchise QB. Jim Zorn didn't think so.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

agree on every point. Still not sold that JC is a franchise QB. Jim Zorn didn't think so.

Zorn had a lot of interesting thoughts.


We do not need a better QB than JC though. The team has a lot of weapons on offense: Moss, Kelly, Thomas, Mitchell at WR. Cooley and Davis are the best TE tandem in the NFL. RB is a little unclear but easily repairable with a single draft pick later in the draft or a FA pickup to supplement what we have. Trading Betts looks like a great option to upgrade through the draft, getting an extra 4th-round pick for him to use on the line could let us use a 2nd or 4th on a RB if we use the 1st on a OT. We could get a L. McCoy-type back to supplement Portis, who is beginning to look like Westbrook at this point of his career.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Buster

Zorn had a lot of interesting thoughts.


We do not need a better QB than JC though. The team has a lot of weapons on offense: Moss, Kelly, Thomas, Mitchell at WR. Cooley and Davis are the best TE tandem in the NFL. RB is a little unclear but easily repairable with a single draft pick later in the draft or a FA pickup to supplement what we have. Trading Betts looks like a great option to upgrade through the draft, getting an extra 4th-round pick for him to use on the line could let us use a 2nd or 4th on a RB if we use the 1st on a OT. We could get a L. McCoy-type back to supplement Portis, who is beginning to look like Westbrook at this point of his career.

Buster...are you Jason Campbell's dad?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Buster...are you Jason Campbell's dad?

You caught me. The black eye actually came from me for throwing 2 picks in the Giants game.

[Paintrain]

Buster, thanks for your diligence in keeping this up week to week. Campbell did what many said he couldn't do-improve in virtually every aspect of his game-and did so in the most trying of circumstances.

I'd be interested to see what he would do with Shanahan and a rebuilt offensive line. The talent is there at the WR and TE positions, we need the upgrade the line and the running game regardless of the QB.

[53Fan]

I agree Paintrain and thanks for the stats Buster. I thought JC did pretty well with one of the worse, if not THE worse, o-lines in the NFL and a mostly non-existant running game.