Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by FREE-AG3NT

I want to sign Cousins really bad but no at the expense to the rest of the team. If he thinks he's deserves more than Rodgers/Brady/ Brees/ Eli / Ben... let him prove it elsewhere.
I like his numbers but it's all Fantasy Fluff if you're not playing in January. Flacco bet on himself and won a Superbowl we didn't even make the playoffs.

We aren't in Baltimore's position. We have plenty of cap room to pay KC and build the team. Its not an either or for us at this point. As for letting him prove it elsewhere, that's just crazy. A top 12 qb doesn't just come along - how many qbs had we gone through before the RG3/KC draft - and most of our losses were defense/st which he has no control over. Yes he had two bonehead games but other than Brady every qb has those.

[Chico23231]

I bet warriorzpath still rocks rg3 gear proudly

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I bet warriorzpath still rocks rg3 gear proudly

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[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

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[skinsfaninok]

Just had a skins fan on instagram tell me that we need to let kirk walk spend all that money on defense and start sudfield.... 😂😂😂

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[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Just had a skins fan on instagram tell me that we need to let kirk walk spend all that money on defense and start sudfield.... 😂😂😂

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Just had a skins fan on instagram tell me that we need to let kirk walk spend all that money on defense and start sudfield.... 😂😂😂

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That was me. I was also the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll.

Jk, but I am for letting him go if his price gets too high. I'm not in the giving him whatever he demands camp. I hope it's 22 million or less. Based on everything he's said though I don't see that happening.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

That was me. I was also the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll.

Jk, but I am for letting him go if his price gets too high. I'm not in the giving him whatever he demands camp. I hope it's 22 million or less. Based on everything he's said though I don't see that happening.

Letting him go for what? Nothing? Couldn't they work a deal with another club for the Redskins to sign him to a contract that would be acceptable to that club and then trade him to that club for a haul of draft picks? Outright cutting him is out of the question, IMO.

By the way, I'm guessing that the $22M that you say is not too much this year would have been too much in your mind last year. This current dilemma could have easily been avoided by the Redskins if they had signed him to a long-term deal last year. If the Skins franchise him again this year then the $24M cost to tag him will look cheap compared to what it would take to sign him the year after that. Plus there is no way to structure a one year franchise tag contract to reduce the cap hit for it. I think the Redskins screwed up by not signing him to a long-term deal last season and if they tag him again this year it will probably end up being an even worse salary cap screw up. Each time he is franchised, the Skins are digging themselves a deeper hole.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Letting him go for what? Nothing? Couldn't they work a deal with another club for the Redskins to sign him to a contract that would be acceptable to that club and then trade him to that club for a haul of draft picks? Outright cutting him is out of the question, IMO.

By the way, I'm guessing that the $22M that you say is not too much this year would have been too much in your mind last year. This current dilemma could have easily been avoided by the Redskins if they had signed him to a long-term deal last year. If the Skins franchise him again this year then the $24M cost to tag him will look cheap compared to what it would take to sign him the year after that. Plus there is no way to structure a one year franchise tag contract to reduce the cap hit for it. I think the Redskins screwed up by not signing him to a long-term deal last season and if they tag him again this year it will probably end up being an even worse salary cap screw up. Each time he is franchised, the Skins are digging themselves a deeper hole.

I personally think he's worth "only" 20 million a year. I could live with 22 but I don't think he was worth that last year or this year.. If he wants 25 million plus then yes I say cut him loose. I don't care about passing yards. I care about red zone production and wins. He talks a bigger game than he plays when it counts.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I personally think he's worth "only" 20 million a year. I could live with 22 but I don't think he was worth that last year or this year.. If he wants 25 million plus then yes I say cut him loose. I don't care about passing yards. I care about red zone production and wins. He talks a bigger game than he plays when it counts.

Hold on a minute! It seems from your post that you don't think Kirk will eventually be good enough to win a Super Bowl with once the team is built around him. Yet you say you'd be willing to pay a man $22M per year who you don't think can lead the team to it's goal? That is nonsensical.

The very first decision the Redskins must make about Kirk is whether or not he can one day lead the team to a Super Bowl victory. If the answer if "no" then they shouldn't throw away any money on him. Conversely, if the Redskins believe he is the man to do the job, then they must find a way to sign him. That part is binary.

Can we all just move away from the ridiculous notion that if Kirk isn't the right guy, then the Redskins still should sign him to a long-term contract but for less money, say $20M for five or six years. What would that accomplish? The answer is nothing. It would be a total waste of money and cap space.

So what is your answer on Kirk, sdskinsfan? Yes or no? It's time to decide.

[rocnrik]

Guys ..I am watching the Giants /packers game and Rogers looks not good against the giants D ..maybe that that D would give any QB a hard time.

[skinsfaninok]

Yeah it appears that the giants d is just that good not the QB play

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[skinsqc]

I think the Packers should cut Rodgers & fire their coach he's not a franchise quarterback the Giants d is too much for him.

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by skinsqc

I think the Packers should cut Rodgers & fire their coach he's not a franchise quarterback the Giants d is too much for him.

Point well taken..this may calm everybody down a bit..We all know that the Skins will sign Cousins..my only concern is for how much ..but other teams do it so it will all work out.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Point well taken..this may calm everybody down a bit..We all know that the Skins will sign Cousins..my only concern is for how much ..but other teams do it so it will all work out.

We don't know that for a second. It's far from a given. In fact i would say right now it is 50 / 50.