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View Poll Results: Is it time for Brunell to find his way to the bench? | |||
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10-15-2006, 10:53 PM | #106 |
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Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now
Good points Mc2guy
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10-15-2006, 10:54 PM | #107 |
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I say let Campbell go in maybe after our sixth loss. Brunell is still our best bet to win games, which we would have won this one if the defense hadn't allowed Henry to run after first contact time and again. The Titans D definitely played better than expected. Their run D numbers are a little misleading since their opponents got early leads and, with Collins throwing INT's, were able to run the clock out. Brunell's last 3 and out series would have been so much different if the Titans safety hadn't layed out for the blocked pass. That was a great defensive play. Moss may have been able to turn it down the field for a score if not for that.
Holdman still sucks. I'm not even going to comment about the secondary. It's like having a birth defect: we just have to compensate for the impairment. Bottom line: The coaches need to do some hard-nosed evaluations and recognize the problems.
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10-15-2006, 10:55 PM | #108 | |
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I also disagree with your reference to Brunell's stats as a great indication of how good he is. Brunell's stats as also inflated because, as you note, this is a YAC-based offense; Brunell throws a 5 yard hitch route, Moss runs 50 yards, and Brunell gets credit for a 55 yard pass play. How does Brunell get credit for WRs' RAC and Portis throwing great blocks to get Moss free? I don't understand the whole love-hate Brunell thing; either people adore the guy or the hate him. I tend to think that he's not as good as many think and not as bad as many others think. |
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10-15-2006, 10:56 PM | #109 | |
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David Carr, Donovan McNabb, Rex Grossman, and Phillip Rivers all have higher QB Ratings than Mark Brunell and all of them have worse weapons. The others with higher ratings? Bulger, the Mannings, and Brees. How about TD's? Pretty similar list with more guys ahead: McNabb, Grossman, Brady, Leftwich, Favre, Carr, Alex Smith, Chad Pennington, Charlie Frye, Jon Kitna and even Damon Huard. Those are just the ones who I think have worse weapons. He's even thrown as many pick as the "grossly overrated" (according to this board) Michael Vick. I don't wanna hear about the greatness of a guy who only throws deep when it looks the game has been lost. I do agree that more of the blame should go to the defense, but you're not gonna convince me that making 1 play as the QB in the NFL is enough to win a football game. Oh yeah, he's 12th in the league in yards and that's mostly cause of the wr's running after catch. Also, these may not still be accurate because this was before these games have been added to the stats, but his rating will come down, he'll have 1 more TD and 1 more pick, so it won't really be much different otherwise. |
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10-15-2006, 10:58 PM | #110 | |
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And guys guess what? What if Campbell turns out to be not that good?? Then wtf do we do? That is why he need atleast 6-7 games this year to get him up to NFL pace, otherwise we need to start looking for a QB again.
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As for Brunell giving us the best chance to win ... well, reasonable people can disagree. But we don't know what Al Saunders thinks. He has absolutely zero input on who gets to the field and takes snaps. Brunell is not solely to blame. But I do believe that when the team is struggling, you makes changes where you can. Right now, there's nothing you can do with the defense. They are what they are. Brunell is not managing the game, he's been ineffective, and that did not start this season. Check out his stats after the injury he took to the knee in the second Giants game last season. Since this defense will likely stay bad throughout the year, so the offense must begin to start clicking. You have to play Campbell sooner or later. |
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10-15-2006, 11:00 PM | #112 |
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If Campbell turns out to be 'not-that-good' then we're royally screwed. Just one thing: He's great, not just good.
Get Campbell in NOW to save this season. |
10-15-2006, 11:03 PM | #113 | |
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I like your optimism and I pray that you are right. But what makes you so confident about JC? He might be great in the future, but I haven't seen anything to make me think he'd be better than Brunell, let alone great. |
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10-15-2006, 11:08 PM | #114 | |
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10-15-2006, 11:10 PM | #115 |
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You don't know what Campbell's gonna be, but you do know what Brunell is and, more importantly, what he isn't. This team isn't winning with him in. They're 2 and 4, I don't buy that Campbell couldn't have beaten the Texans, so they might be 1 game worse, but what would be the difference? If you don't think this season is over, then (like I said in another thread) you have my permission to throw this in my face when they make the playoffs. When that happens I'll say "You were right and I was wrong." Until that happens, I'm gonna go with my knowledge of football and realize that they have very little shot at making the playoffs.
For everyone who believes the season isn't over, please tell me which 8 games they're going to win: Colts Cowboys Eagles Bucs Panthers Falcons Eagles Saints Rams Giants Just tell which 8 they'll win. And I really don't wanna hear about winning 5 straight last season cause they played defense then. |
10-15-2006, 11:15 PM | #116 |
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It will take at least a broken leg before Gibbs will yank markie mark. But he sure showed a quick hook last year with old patrick.....
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10-15-2006, 11:17 PM | #117 | |
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10-15-2006, 11:18 PM | #118 |
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And how is ol' Patrick doing this year? [/sarcasm]
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10-15-2006, 11:20 PM | #119 | |
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Yep. I heard a local beat writer for the Skins once say that the only other quarterback Gibbs showed less patience for was Stan Humphries. |
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10-15-2006, 11:21 PM | #120 |
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Not the Ramsey-Brunell thing again.....
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