It's not Brunell's fault!

irish · 10-23-2006, 07:03 AM

The only thing that makes MBs stats look even half way decent is all the garbage time yards he picked up. It isnt all MBs fault. The fault lies with the overpaid and over aged coaches that cant seem to find a way to make the system work with the players they have. The fault also lies with the front office that signs players onl to find out later they cant do what the coaches need them to do.

SmootSmack · 10-23-2006, 09:59 AM

Bring back Bill Musgrave!!!!

That Guy · 10-23-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Bring back Bill Musgrave!!!!

he seems to have helped vick this year. i'd say he's pretty good.

Twilbert07 · 10-23-2006, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

he seems to have helped vick this year. i'd say he's pretty good.

I agree. Living down here in Atlanta, the Falcons' fans are split between loving and hating Vick. But, hell, he makes plays and wins games like yesterday against the Steelers. Makes me envious at times.

GTripp0012 · 10-23-2006, 10:50 AM

Oh and to answer the thread topic question:

It's not Brunell's fault because...see for yourself

NFL.com - Mark Brunell

Dogtag · 10-23-2006, 11:00 AM

Yeah, its Brunnl's fault. Let's go break his legs. Why can't he cover the oher team's recievers. And the field goals he has missed recently. He is not very good at stopping the run either. And have you noticed how he cant block the defensive line. One would hope he could call his own plays better.

Hog1 · 10-23-2006, 11:00 AM

At a cursory glance at the numbers, it seems MB is having a better year than most. As far as "garbage time", all QB's numbers are padded with a certain amount??? As stated earlier, it's a team sport and, and this team (with VERY few exceptions) shares the wealth. Can Brunell save us? No. Is it his fault? No------------Bring on JC. 2007 is NOW

GTripp0012 · 10-23-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

At a cursory glance at the numbers, it seems MB is having a better year than most. As far as "garbage time", all QB's numbers are padded with a certain amount??? As stated earlier, it's a team sport and, and this team (with VERY few exceptions) shares the wealth. Can Brunell save us? No. Is it his fault? No------------Bring on JC. 2007 is NOW

This is pretty accurate. Brunell is not going to be a savior. Unfortunately, neither is Campbell. So as long is Brunell is playing well, and we are within 2.5 games of first place, I think GW has earned the ability to right the ship over the bye week.

If he can't none of this will matter, so then I'd say, yeah, bring on Campbell.

illdefined · 10-23-2006, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

At a cursory glance at the numbers, it seems MB is having a better year than most. As far as "garbage time", all QB's numbers are padded with a certain amount??? As stated earlier, it's a team sport and, and this team (with VERY few exceptions) shares the wealth. Can Brunell save us? No. Is it his fault? No------------Bring on JC. 2007 is NOW

fuck "garbage time". no really.

late in the 4th quarter if you're behind, is not "garbage time" its time you should be throwing to your playmakers to try and win the game. again, ask Elway about "garbage time".

even if it's totally hopeless to catch up, and it really is worthless to even try, how many QBs around the league get themselves in that position on a weekly basis? should we be on par with Arizona and Oakland??

GTripp0012 · 10-23-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

fuck "garbage time". no really.

late in the 4th quarter if you're behind, is not "garbage time" its time you should be throwing to your playmakers to try and win the game. again, ask Elway about "garbage time".

even if it's totally hopeless to catch up, and it really is worthless to even try, how many QBs around the league get themselves in that position on a weekly basis? should we be on par with Arizona and Oakland??

You get your guys hurt trying to win a losing battle. Moss has a hamstring injury, Randle El came up funny and we didn't even try hard to come back at the end.

illdefined · 10-23-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

You get your guys hurt trying to win a losing battle. Moss has a hamstring injury, Randle El came up funny and we didn't even try hard to come back at the end.

win a losing battle is why we play the game GTripp. also, people RACK UP yards during "garbage time". defenses are set up to give short yards and prevent quick scores. Brunell dumped off to Betts for 8yds at a clip and took the whole clock in the process. 1 TD scored, Indy wins the game. mission accomplished.

in fact its even in the name of the defense PREVENT. even i learned that in my days at Sega Genesis State.

GTripp0012 · 10-23-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

win a losing battle is why we play the game GTripp. also, people RACK UP yards during "garbage time". defenses are set up to give short yards and prevent quick scores. Brunell dumped off to Betts for 8yds at a clip and took the whole clock in the process. 1 TD scored, Indy wins the game. mission accomplished.

in fact its even in the name of the defense PREVENT. even i learned that in my days at Sega Genesis State.

I wasn't talking about low percentage chances, I love those kind of comebacks, it's what I live for. I'm talking about two minute warning, down by 3 tds stuff, where the only hope for victory is Brunell to Mossx3 + 2 successful onside kicks. That just isn't worth it.

I understand a prevent, probably more so than the average person seeing as how I was a garbage time QB in HS. But I think you missed by point about how trailing 3 TDs is a HUGE disadvantage before the game gets to prevent defense status. Undoubtably, Brunell took a major beating due to the score. Yet, he continued to move the ball, and accrue completions. I think our third down playcalling needs to be more conventional.

Sega Genesis rocks my world.

The Zimmermans · 10-23-2006, 11:20 AM

exactly, brunell is the perfect backup nothing more

The Zimmermans · 10-23-2006, 11:27 AM

forget throwing deep, brunell is too scared to throw for first downs, he takes so frickin long to drop back, that by the time he completes the screen, there are 2 linebackers sniffing it out. he's got no athleticism and horrible footwork right now. Saunders is not the problem and neither is GW. Lack of talent is the problem, especially on defense.

That Guy · 10-23-2006, 11:37 AM

you know, the shotgun worked a lot better for brunell... why did that disappear so completely? and where's the audibles that worked so well last year?

10-23-2006, 07:03 AM	#1
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! The only thing that makes MBs stats look even half way decent is all the garbage time yards he picked up. It isnt all MBs fault. The fault lies with the overpaid and over aged coaches that cant seem to find a way to make the system work with the players they have. The fault also lies with the front office that signs players onl to find out later they cant do what the coaches need them to do.

10-23-2006, 09:59 AM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! Bring back Bill Musgrave!!!! __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-23-2006, 10:50 AM	#5
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! Oh and to answer the thread topic question: It's not Brunell's fault because...see for yourself NFL.com - Mark Brunell

10-23-2006, 11:00 AM	#6
Dogtag Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dumfries, VA Age: 73 Posts: 241	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! Yeah, its Brunnl's fault. Let's go break his legs. Why can't he cover the oher team's recievers. And the field goals he has missed recently. He is not very good at stopping the run either. And have you noticed how he cant block the defensive line. One would hope he could call his own plays better.

10-23-2006, 11:00 AM	#7
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! At a cursory glance at the numbers, it seems MB is having a better year than most. As far as "garbage time", all QB's numbers are padded with a certain amount??? As stated earlier, it's a team sport and, and this team (with VERY few exceptions) shares the wealth. Can Brunell save us? No. Is it his fault? No------------Bring on JC. 2007 is NOW __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-23-2006, 11:20 AM	#13
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 42 Posts: 937	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! exactly, brunell is the perfect backup nothing more __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

10-23-2006, 11:27 AM	#14
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 42 Posts: 937	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! forget throwing deep, brunell is too scared to throw for first downs, he takes so frickin long to drop back, that by the time he completes the screen, there are 2 linebackers sniffing it out. he's got no athleticism and horrible footwork right now. Saunders is not the problem and neither is GW. Lack of talent is the problem, especially on defense. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

10-23-2006, 11:37 AM	#15
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! you know, the shotgun worked a lot better for brunell... why did that disappear so completely? and where's the audibles that worked so well last year?

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