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Old 09-22-2007, 12:21 AM   #1
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Some consider themselves black while others don't despite what appears to be the obvious. Race classification doesn't work in Latin America the way it works here in America. Here is a snippet from wikipeida that hits the nail on the head.
Very interesting...thanks for the description.

I wonder when the term "white" will no longer be socially accepted instead you'll see "italian american", or "Irish American" etc. We seem to be a society that loves to divide and separate.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:39 AM   #2
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Very interesting...thanks for the description.

I wonder when the term "white" will no longer be socially accepted instead you'll see "italian american", or "Irish American" etc. We seem to be a society that loves to divide and separate.

I wonder how we got that way, do you think it was by accident or design?
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:23 AM   #3
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I wonder how we got that way, do you think it was by accident or design?
I have no clue. But throughout history we've been like this...I personally think it's our personal inadaquacies. The more we feel inadaquate the more we need to feel better about ourselves. No one says "hey, I belong to the homeless gang under the bridge" and be proud of it, but they will say "I belong to the country club" and be proud of it. It our way of making ourselves better than others. This is likely the same response when it comes to competition. We need to be better than the Tom, Dick, or Harry around us. Not everyone has a massive compulsion for this, but we have this inate feeling inside all of us.
So anyway, that's my best guess...I think we are born with it.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:18 PM   #4
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Very interesting...thanks for the description.

I wonder when the term "white" will no longer be socially accepted instead you'll see "italian american", or "Irish American" etc. We seem to be a society that loves to divide and separate.
Well, for people with strong ties to their heritage this is already true. But I think what you will see in ~50 years is a lot more of this with respect to "non-white" people, especially those who are a product of biracial marriages. As I said a long time ago in this thread, you look at someone like Tiger Woods, who is successful and multiracial, and he breaks a lot of stereotypes and classifications. I think the old school, "keep to yourself" attitudes are slowly dying out with the older generations.

There will always be hardcore bigots, but for every one of them there are dozens and dozens of college kids who have friends / companions / romances with people of many different ethnicities, who seek out and enjoy celebrating the differences of other cultures. And, every generation, the median acceptance of this kind of vibe rises a little, like seawater after a rain.
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:16 PM   #5
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Well, for people with strong ties to their heritage this is already true. But I think what you will see in ~50 years is a lot more of this with respect to "non-white" people, especially those who are a product of biracial marriages. As I said a long time ago in this thread, you look at someone like Tiger Woods, who is successful and multiracial, and he breaks a lot of stereotypes and classifications. I think the old school, "keep to yourself" attitudes are slowly dying out with the older generations.

There will always be hardcore bigots, but for every one of them there are dozens and dozens of college kids who have friends / companions / romances with people of many different ethnicities, who seek out and enjoy celebrating the differences of other cultures. And, every generation, the median acceptance of this kind of vibe rises a little, like seawater after a rain.
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McNabb's statements have really changed my opinion of him. He has lost a lot of my respect. I thought we were almost over this issue with Cunningham, Williams, Moon, and more recently V Young(not to overlook others). Who cares really? I think McNabb is strecthing or reaching on his statements. Bad and dumb move McNabb.

P.S. Re: Philly is the worst, toughest, most critical, blah blah blah football town to play in, remember Rypien was booooooed off the field the following season after winning the SB.

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Old 09-23-2007, 08:01 PM   #7
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I think the call him "Jake the Snake" because he was so elusive. Defenders had a hard time getting a hand on him in the pocket he could get out of bad situations.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:42 PM   #8
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That's the point I was proving. I don't understand how "snake" implies scrambling.
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:48 AM   #9
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In Donovan's defense the interview was recorded last month and it's release was very untimely for the Eagles and McNabb @ 0-2. At first I thought they were comments after Monday's loss. They weren't. Taped. Totally outta context. Media. Not a big deal... His point is valid. And wasn't meant to coincide with loss to Redskins.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:04 AM   #10
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The Irish and Italians weren't exactly highly thought of when they first came here. They were considered trash and a notch above blacks. I would imagine it was more advantageous to just be white rather than be an Irishman or Italian.
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:21 AM   #11
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while i feel Mcnabb is way off base with his comments, the timing is horrible. as soon as he starts to play bad, he says this stuff. and i think its funny that when he brings this up, one Mr Jason Campbell is starting right here in D.C. i can almost guarantee you, if you are a black quarterback that can play, you will get your shot.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:33 PM   #12
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while i feel Mcnabb is way off base with his comments, the timing is horrible. as soon as he starts to play bad, he says this stuff. and i think its funny that when he brings this up, one Mr Jason Campbell is starting right here in D.C. i can almost guarantee you, if you are a black quarterback that can play, you will get your shot.
It was taped from a few weeks ago.
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