If Not Joe, Then Who?

hagams · 12-04-2007, 10:07 AM

I wanted to pick Gregg for obvious reasons, but if it ain't broke....Bill will bring a more hard nosed approach to the team. Gibbs is kinda laid back, and let's the players set the tempo. I will welcome anyone on the current coaching staff, except for Al. Don't like him, never have never will.

irish · 12-04-2007, 10:26 AM

I voted for other but I dont have a name. I want the Skins to find the next Mike Tomlin or some other young coach that can establish his system and stay awhile if it workd.

Cowher would never work with this team as they are now too used to Gibbs easy-going, we are all family ways. He's too loud and too harsh on the players. He would never work with these guys.

MTK · 12-04-2007, 10:28 AM

A new coach will bring in his own players over time anyway, so you can't make a coaching decision based on your current roster.

The Zimmermans · 12-04-2007, 10:33 AM

cowher is not the answer. He won his superbowl, now he wants to be with his family. We need a young innovative hungry coach....who really has the time to invest into this team, and the drive to take us to the superbowl. Paying a coach who doesnt wanna come back billions of dollars is not gonna "make him wanna come back" it's just gonna make him want the money.

The Zimmermans · 12-04-2007, 10:34 AM

We should stick with Grilliams if gibb's leaves, but keep him on a short leash, kindof an interim coach....he he has immediate success stick with him.

MTK · 12-04-2007, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

cowher is not the answer. He won his superbowl, now he wants to be with his family. We need a young innovative hungry coach....who really has the time to invest into this team, and the drive to take us to the superbowl. Paying a coach who doesnt wanna come back billions of dollars is not gonna "make him wanna come back" it's just gonna make him want the money.

Who says that Cowher doesn't want to come back though?

I think he's just enjoying his time off right now and he can afford to sit back and wait for the perfect opportunity to come along. I'm sure he probably has a few jobs in mind. He still has plenty of quality coaching years left in him. I don't see him taking a long break.

BleedBurgundy · 12-04-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I like Grimm. But I don't think of him as innovative per se.

I think the whole "innovative" thing is somewhat overrated. I'd be happy with running the counter tre every other play if we were getting first downs and finishing drives with touchdowns. Whoever can motivate these players to execute up to their ability is who I want to coach. I think that's still Joe Gibbs. I think this 2nd time around has been tough but I truly believe that we are going to be a very strong team next year. I want one more year of Gibbs 2.0 before I'm ready to throw in the towel on a HOF coach who has the players' respect.

DirtBagZ · 12-04-2007, 11:09 AM

I voted for Grimm, and I disagree with comments about innovation, he is only a coordinator in Arizona, not the head coach. I don't recall Arizona being overly conservative with WRs such as Anquan Boldin (spelling) and Larry Fitzgerald. I think Grimm would bring the toughness you would expect of a Redskins team, and new ideas due to his time spent in Pittsburgh and Arizona. I don't like the idea of a retread coach. I think Wade Phillips is an exception just because of the vast amount of talent stashed on that team by the Tuna, just wait until Jerry Jones gets back into the thick of things in terms of draft picks and FAs. I suspect Romo was a Parcells pick, not a J. Jones pick.

Redskin Rich · 12-04-2007, 11:15 AM

The current staff has not done much at all. GW did nothing in his first tenure as a Head Coach. My first choice would be Grimm... he is a Redskin who has a great coaching line. If we don't go with Grimm, then you have to go with a proven winner year in and year out... that means Cowher.

MTK · 12-04-2007, 11:15 AM

I've never understood why some people are so on Grimm's nuts. Is it just because he's a beloved former player??

MTK · 12-04-2007, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskin Rich

The current staff has not done much at all. GW did nothing in his first tenure as a Head Coach. My first choice would be Grimm... he is a Redskin who has a great coaching line. If we don't go with Grimm, then you have to go with a proven winner year in and year out... that means Cowher.

You can say that about plenty of guys, most notably Bill Belichick.

Hell, if Norv gets chance after chance I don't see why GW shouldn't get a 2nd shot.

SmootSmack · 12-04-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I've never understood why some people are so on Grimm's nuts. Is it just because he's a beloved former player??

That and his apprenticeship as a player under a HOF in Gibbs and as a coach under a potential HOF in Cowher

Redskin Rich · 12-04-2007, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You can say that about plenty of guys, most notably Bill Belichick.

Hell, if Norv gets chance after chance I don't see why GW shouldn't get a 2nd shot.

Actually, I will disagree with you on Belichick.... He actually had the Browns in the play offs the year before.... but after I believe like 5 games, Modell announced the move... and everything fell apart.

Belichick also had alot of success before and AFTER as a coordinator... GW is hot and cold with us.

Redskin Rich · 12-04-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I've never understood why some people are so on Grimm's nuts. Is it just because he's a beloved former player??

Partly - YES... but he also has had the right experience as a coach... he is due to be a head coach... why not with us.

xkaotikx · 12-04-2007, 11:29 AM

I think Gregg Williams could really pull this team together. He's got the defense ready to go all year and now he knows a little bit about how to motivate guys and get their heads in the game.

View Poll Results: If Gibbs Doesn't Return, Who Should Be the Head Coach?
Bill Cowher	60	30.00%
Russ Grimm	45	22.50%
Al Saunders	9	4.50%
Gregg Williams	68	34.00%
Other (tell us who)	18	9.00%
Voters: 200. You may not vote on this poll

12-04-2007, 10:07 AM	#106
hagams Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Beaufort SC Age: 45 Posts: 933	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? I wanted to pick Gregg for obvious reasons, but if it ain't broke....Bill will bring a more hard nosed approach to the team. Gibbs is kinda laid back, and let's the players set the tempo. I will welcome anyone on the current coaching staff, except for Al. Don't like him, never have never will. __________________ We are always superbowl contenders in March!!! HTTR!!!!!!!!

12-04-2007, 10:26 AM	#107
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? I voted for other but I dont have a name. I want the Skins to find the next Mike Tomlin or some other young coach that can establish his system and stay awhile if it workd. Cowher would never work with this team as they are now too used to Gibbs easy-going, we are all family ways. He's too loud and too harsh on the players. He would never work with these guys.

12-04-2007, 10:28 AM	#108
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? A new coach will bring in his own players over time anyway, so you can't make a coaching decision based on your current roster. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-04-2007, 10:33 AM	#109
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 40 Posts: 937	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? cowher is not the answer. He won his superbowl, now he wants to be with his family. We need a young innovative hungry coach....who really has the time to invest into this team, and the drive to take us to the superbowl. Paying a coach who doesnt wanna come back billions of dollars is not gonna "make him wanna come back" it's just gonna make him want the money. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

12-04-2007, 10:34 AM	#110
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 40 Posts: 937	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? We should stick with Grilliams if gibb's leaves, but keep him on a short leash, kindof an interim coach....he he has immediate success stick with him. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

12-04-2007, 11:09 AM	#113
DirtBagZ Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 481	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? I voted for Grimm, and I disagree with comments about innovation, he is only a coordinator in Arizona, not the head coach. I don't recall Arizona being overly conservative with WRs such as Anquan Boldin (spelling) and Larry Fitzgerald. I think Grimm would bring the toughness you would expect of a Redskins team, and new ideas due to his time spent in Pittsburgh and Arizona. I don't like the idea of a retread coach. I think Wade Phillips is an exception just because of the vast amount of talent stashed on that team by the Tuna, just wait until Jerry Jones gets back into the thick of things in terms of draft picks and FAs. I suspect Romo was a Parcells pick, not a J. Jones pick.

12-04-2007, 11:15 AM	#114
Redskin Rich The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,420	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? The current staff has not done much at all. GW did nothing in his first tenure as a Head Coach. My first choice would be Grimm... he is a Redskin who has a great coaching line. If we don't go with Grimm, then you have to go with a proven winner year in and year out... that means Cowher. __________________ I really have nothing to say in this matter, please ignore the above post as blowing hot air.

12-04-2007, 11:15 AM	#115
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? I've never understood why some people are so on Grimm's nuts. Is it just because he's a beloved former player?? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-04-2007, 11:29 AM	#120
xkaotikx Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 27	Re: If Not Joe, Then Who? I think Gregg Williams could really pull this team together. He's got the defense ready to go all year and now he knows a little bit about how to motivate guys and get their heads in the game.

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