What has Obama done well?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Fine. I give up. Look, Obama has done some good things (already outlined) and he's broken promises (outlined as well), but that's to be expected. Politicians always make promises they can't keep when campaigning. Whether it's not kept through their own fault or reasons beyond their control, campaign promises are impossible to keep 100% of the time.

But this whole Obama hates America because there is allegedly no proof he was born in the United States is among the dumbest of the litany of dumb political posts here. That a Redskins fan would think that makes me both embarrassed to be a Redskins fan and a registered Republican.

I blame only myself for even participating in such a stupid discussion

From what I have read in the post here people are not saying he hates America because he was not born here they are looking at the people he associated with over the years. I currently do not buy into he hates Americia but its not that far of a stretch for someone to come up with that looking at his past relationships with certain people. Rev Write we know what he has said and he also had a close relationship to people who bombed a police cars. There are other ? people but I cannot think of them at this moment.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by firstdown

From what I have read in the post here people are not saying he hates America because he was not born here

Ok, that wasn't the impression I got from this post

http://www.thewarpath.net/576518-post73.html

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

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Couldn't be?

[JLee9718]

It seems that there's an organized effort by the Republicans to make Obama look bad in these town hall meetings. Honestly, I got an e-mail from a conservative friend where a doctor attacked Obama's health proposal. We complain about getting big bills from doctors, then we claim that they must know more than any of the rest of us on what Obama's health plan really means. What I'm thinking is it means less money for the doctors (and rightly so), and that's the real reason they don't like it.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by JLee9718

It seems that there's an organized effort by the Republicans to make Obama look bad in these town hall meetings. Honestly, I got an e-mail from a conservative friend where a doctor attacked Obama's health proposal. We complain about getting big bills from doctors, then we claim that they must know more than any of the rest of us on what Obama's health plan really means. What I'm thinking is it means less money for the doctors (and rightly so), and that's the real reason they don't like it.

I think that's kind of a narrow view of looking at it...but the faults of the health care plan have been repeated over and over again already

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think that's kind of a narrow view of looking at it...but the faults of the health care plan have been repeated over and over again already

Really? We should probably start a thread to discuss them!!!

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Really? We should probably start a thread to discuss them!!!

Maybe we could get a debate between JoeRedskin and Saden going. We would have to limit length of posts though

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by JLee9718

It seems that there's an organized effort by the Republicans to make Obama look bad in these town hall meetings. Honestly, I got an e-mail from a conservative friend where a doctor attacked Obama's health proposal. We complain about getting big bills from doctors, then we claim that they must know more than any of the rest of us on what Obama's health plan really means. What I'm thinking is it means less money for the doctors (and rightly so), and that's the real reason they don't like it.

Please explain why you think doctors should not get paid the money they are currently making. The reason I ask is I have two friends that are doctors and I'll also add they probably make more money then any of my other friends. With that said they both work harder then anyone else I know and they earn the money they make. If you start to cut doctors pay they will not become doctors and choose a career that pays them for their hard work. You will then water down the quality of doctors over time.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JLee9718

It seems that there's an organized effort by the Republicans to make Obama look bad in these town hall meetings. Honestly, I got an e-mail from a conservative friend where a doctor attacked Obama's health proposal. We complain about getting big bills from doctors, then we claim that they must know more than any of the rest of us on what Obama's health plan really means. What I'm thinking is it means less money for the doctors (and rightly so), and that's the real reason they don't like it.

Certainly there was never any organized effort by the opposition party to make other Presidents look bad. And with biased facts at that. OMG I can't believe how unfair they are.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

I have, and still do, associate with people who do not share my views -- some are even my good friends. It's important to understand that people's views don't have to conform to yours to make them valid. Once you understand that, it's easy to accept it.

[KLHJ2]

Fair enough, and I would somewhat agree. I am just sick of the whole. "Your for abortion" thing.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Most of us know that Obama has done a poor job thus far as president (at least those that are willing to look at things objectively). So to be fair, and objective, what has he done right thus far?

Please note, this is not a bash Obama thread, we could fill up a ton of pages with what he's done wrong, this is purely a thread to show the positive Obama has done to this point...I'm sure Obama has done some good, so here's your chance to voice it.

He reads a teleprompter well. That's about it.

[KLHJ2]

1. You were dupped, almost everybody was duped, don't get mad at me. I was pissed that we had to be there for some BS. Once we made the mess though, we had to clean it up.

2. They are not following our rules, so we get all huffy and puffy. Yes they signed a treaty so what. It was only supposed to last 25 years. Then it was extended by a "consensus". Were they part of that consensus? Anyway all you did was support my point. We are trying to tell them what they can and cannot do with Nuclear Energy. Not that it is a bad thing. FYI the U.S. is the workhorse of the U.N.

3. If you read my response to Firstdown then you say that I agree with some his sentiments on abortion. I am stating my POV on the subject. My point of view does not believe that all abortions are OK. On the other hand Rowe VS. Wade had cut down on crime. Did Roe v. Wade Abort Crime? | The American Prospect

The Impact of Legalized Abortion on Crime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

4. Don't worry, I will take care of my grandma if Obamacare falters. It's not going to fail. It is a bunch of speculation by a bunch of people who will lose money over the whole ordeal.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Angry

1. You were dupped, almost everybody was duped, don't get mad at me. I was pissed that we had to be there for some BS. Once we made the mess though, we had to clean it up.

2. They are not following our rules, so we get all huffy and puffy. Yes they signed a treaty so what. It was only supposed to last 25 years. Then it was extended by a "consensus". Were they part of that consensus? Anyway all you did was support my point. We are trying to tell them what they can and cannot do with Nuclear Energy. Not that it is a bad thing. FYI the U.S. is the workhorse of the U.N.

3. If you read my response to Firstdown then you say that I agree with some his sentiments on abortion. I am stating my POV on the subject. My point of view does not believe that all abortions are OK. On the other hand Rowe VS. Wade had cut down on crime. Did Roe v. Wade Abort Crime? | The American Prospect

The Impact of Legalized Abortion on Crime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

4. Don't worry, I will take care of my grandma if Obamacare falters. It's not going to fail. It is a bunch of speculation by a bunch of people who will lose money over the whole ordeal.

You say it wont fail because you look at the other goverment programs and see how well they run. Lets look at the post office ops bad choice. How about SS ops bad choice. Lets see what program does the goverment run that has stayed within budget and runs great. Hmmm, nothing. It would stay afloat with the tax payers bailing it out but I think they will need to get a faster clock.U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You say it wont fail because you look at the other goverment programs and see how well they run. Lets look at the post office ops bad choice. How about SS ops bad choice. Lets see what program does the goverment run that has stayed within budget and runs great. Hmmm, nothing. It would stay afloat with the tax payers bailing it out but I think they will need to get a faster clock.U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Enlighten me. What is wrong with the postal system? Does your mail not get delivered in a timely manner. Does your grandmothers mail not arrive because it would be a waste of time for her to look at it because her eye sight is so bad? I would ask similar questions about SS but there are a couple of serious issues there. On the bright side though, it still pays out when it is supposed to. The problem is that it pays out when it isn't supposed to as well.I do not see the federal govt using universal healthcare as a personal piggy bank like they did with SS. And if they do, they should go to prison for embesslement.