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Old 08-31-2009, 09:47 AM   #106
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Curious why some people seem so fired up against Tanner?

In the end is this really a big deal? Someone blogs about an athlete who was a jerk to him/her. Wow, shocker. I'm sure there are plenty of blogs out there with very similar accounts of a pro athlete acting like a dick. Personally I just found it entertaining so that's why I linked to it.

Why the animosity towards Tanner and the blog? Perhaps a little bit of underlying jealousy?

Yes I always wanted a big brother, espically one that played in the NFL and what I get a stupid little sister who can't do anyhting!

Joking, I love my sister.
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:48 AM   #107
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The point has been well covered by others, but I think the problem that some of us have with this particular blog post is that Tanner appears at least as "unprofessional" as Randy Moss. When you lead with the line "I'm Chris Cooley's brother, can I get an interview" that is meant to garner access based upon your relation to Chris Cooley. That is fine, I guess, since much of life is about who you know, but as Skinny Tee mentioned, the "professional" thing to do would probably be to identify yourself as representing thecooleyzone.com. "I'm Chris Cooley's brother" implies that you expect some access based upon your identity and why should that mean anything to Randy Moss? Sure he could have responded better, but it is certainly not a surprising response.

But the real issue is that none of us should ever have known about that interaction. To go out of your way to Tweet, Facebook, and Blog about it is unnecessary. You had a bad experience with a professional athlete. If you were just another individual and that happened to you then I think you probably could blog all you wanted about it and that would be fine. But you are representing Chris Cooley (as you yourself made clear in the locker room) and you should not be getting into personal pissing matches with other professional athletes on his website. It is just bad policy and, frankly, unprofessional. You don't need to call Randy Moss a "dick" on Facebook or write long diatribes about your experience. It is just not a very mature of professional response. It was a mistake on his part. It is also ironic for him to then come on to this website and say that if you have a problem with it that you should email him directly rather than posting your response in a public forum.

And all of that is not a personal attack on Tanner Cooley. It is a critique of this one blog post. That is what HooSkins, SkinnyTee, and others were saying. He made a mistake. He should learn from the experience.
I can certainly understand that point of view. I guess I just don't see where it was a huge deal either way. Moss was a prick and someone blogged about it.

The part I find interesting is those that seem to justify Moss being rude. I'm not sure that what Tanner did was so out of line to justify someone treating him like that. Perhaps he could have just brushed it off as no big deal and moved on, but I guess he was thinking it would be something worthwhile to blog about, and based on the amount of discussion it's generated I have think that it was.

Also, we're talking about a blog here, not a legit news source. If this was Jason Reid of the WaPo posting stuff like this I would agree it's way out of line.
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:52 AM   #108
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Also, we're talking about a blog here, not a legit news source. If this was Jason Reid of the WaPo posting stuff like this I would agree it's way out of line.
I agree with your statement but also think it shows the problem. Moss is a douche bag, no one should be surprised, and he has done this before quite assuredly but reporters don't ever write about it because they can't. If Reid were to write about about a similar incident he'd lose some cred with players making it haredr to do his job. In the end Moss should've just said no interviews and Tanner should have just let it slide. I don't think it's like the Cooley brothers to chill on something like this though. They're not exactly reserved. And they still run the best player site in the league.
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:16 AM   #109
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I can certainly understand that point of view. I guess I just don't see where it was a huge deal either way. Moss was a prick and someone blogged about it.

The part I find interesting is those that seem to justify Moss being rude. I'm not sure that what Tanner did was so out of line to justify someone treating him like that. Perhaps he could have just brushed it off as no big deal and moved on, but I guess he was thinking it would be something worthwhile to blog about, and based on the amount of discussion it's generated I have think that it was.

Also, we're talking about a blog here, not a legit news source. If this was Jason Reid of the WaPo posting stuff like this I would agree it's way out of line.
I agree...they both should have done that so this subject topic could have remained blogless and threadless.

I think it's funny the written intention of the blog was to make Moss come off as a dick but the opposite ending up happening to the writer. It a good thing Tanner's going to med school and not becoming a novelist.
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:41 AM   #110
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I just want the record to state that I held the same view point before and after this guy's posting on the Warpath.

I didn't change my sentiment just because he came around. Also his first response was a little dicky at the end by saying we didn't need to post it on Warpath, just email him with negative responses. I personally don't think I've been dicky while offering my dissenting opinion.
Neither do I, if anything I have been cut and dry. Sure I said he was holding jocks and riding coattails, but again that is fact. As SC Skins said, Tanner went out of his way to say he is was Chris' brother to Moss. If Tanner is getting upset at what me, some random poster, says about his blog maybe he is in the wrong business. At least I didn't cuss him out and gave my opinions in a clear and respectful way(kinda like what he wanted from Moss).

I am surprised you, Matty, are not more reactive to Tanner's comments. He is basically telling you what you can and cannot post on your forum.
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:46 AM   #111
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It will be interesting to see what, if any, effect this has in the future.

Will future players think "Well I have to talk to Tanner (or anyone else from Cooley's blog), because if I don't then tomorrow they'll be a blog post about what an ass I am."
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:47 AM   #112
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It will be interesting to see what, if any, effect this has in the future.

Will future players think "Well I have to talk to Tanner (or anyone else from Cooley's blog), because if I don't then tomorrow they'll be a blog post about what an ass I am."
That thought will probably happen to Redskins, but do you really think a receiver in NE would care? I don't think he would, but hey I could be wrong.
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:48 AM   #113
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After all I have said, I still think the Pats and Moss could be dicks. I just wouldn't pass judgment after one interview. And for the record I don't like the Pats either, I was rooting for them to lose.
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:50 AM   #114
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Poor Tanner Cooley got his feelings hurt. Randy Moss blew him off and wasn't so nice about. Big deal. I don't think we're talking about a Ryan Leaf moment or anything. Get over it and quit sounding like a baby Tanner. Media shouldn't be allowed in the locker rooms anyway.
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:52 AM   #115
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Neither do I, if anything I have been cut and dry. Sure I said he was holding jocks and riding coattails, but again that is fact. As SC Skins said, Tanner went out of his way to say he is was Chris' brother to Moss. If Tanner is getting upset at what me, some random poster, says about his blog maybe he is in the wrong business. At least I didn't cuss him out and gave my opinions in a clear and respectful way(kinda like what he wanted from Moss).

I am surprised you, Matty, are not more reactive to Tanner's comments. He is basically telling you what you can and cannot post on your forum.
However you spin it those are dicky comments, and really not necessary.

I didn't take his comment as him telling us what we can or can't talk about, he's just saying if you have a problem with him feel free to take it up with him personally.
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:53 AM   #116
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Tanner was as much of a part of the press as the rest of the press in the locker room. He has a press pass, so he has as much right to be there as anybody else who has a press pass.

I think Tanner just reacted like any of the rest of us would have reacted. I seriously doubt any of us would say, "wow, that Randy Moss is an intense guy, I'm going to honor his requests by not interviewing him. He's such a chip off the old block." It's easy for us to sit back and pick Tanner apart, because we were not in his position. And, Randy Moss could have easily said, "No thanks man, not doing any interviews." NFL players are role models, like it or not. I think they need to act like it. It's one thing to be all business, it's another thing to come off as a jerk.
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It reminds me when I called Terrell Suggs a thug and people went out of their f'ing mind and bit my head off. I guess people on this site can be very moody. Oh well.
Why is Suggs a thug? He's never been in trouble with the law or anything. Just curious.
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:02 AM   #118
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Good thing Matty is here to defend TC's honor, not sure what he would do without you.

Alot of you guys are getting soft, this is the real world and people generally only give a crap about themselves. Is Moss a jerk? Yes! Did TC need to cry about it on his blog? No! Is this a pretty common response for the media when dealing with a moody player? Probably! Was this thread pathetic about 20 posts ago? Definately yes!
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:31 AM   #119
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I am very glad that the post has generated as much interest as it has. In my earlier comments in this thread I wasn't telling anyone what to say or where to say it. I was just inviting criticism to my personal email. If you have a problem or would like to see something different on thecooleyzone please let us know. It is purely there for your entertainment.

To answer the statements that I was saying I was Cooley's brother prior to asking for the interview, WTF else would I say? If I worked for the Washington Post, I would say "I'm TC from the Washington Post." I was just letting Moss know who I was and where the interview would go. Its how most interviews begin. I work for Chris and write for his site.

Also, I never said Moss owed me anything. He didn't. He just didn't need to act the way he did and I stated the facts of what happened because I thought it was blog worthy. Do I expect everyone I try to interview to be open with me? No. Do I expect everyone to be nice? No. But Moss turned this into a topic by saying what he said. Had he said "No comment" or even "No interviews tonight man" that would have been the end of it.
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:56 AM   #120
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Moss has always struck me as a less vocal T.O. He is just as selfish and thinks the world revolves around him. I have never been impressed by Moss.
All of you guys bashing Randy Moss crack me up. He's been nothing but a leader on NE's team. If we make the trade to Oakland and he's wearing burgundy and gold, catches 20+ TD's in one season, takes JC's game to the next level, all of you would be sniffing his jock. Amazing.
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