Looking ahead, it's only going to get worse

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Maybe so, but no possible way it's worse than we have now.

If that's the case bring back Kendall.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't put no blame on the Snyder either...I put all the blame on the Snyder!

Seriously though, Snyder, in my opinion, is not all at fault. But, while it's very commendable that he'll do anything possible it takes more than that. He's a good owner in that sense that he almost never says no to what he and his coaches want...he'd be great if he sometimes did

I know this is the wrong forum for this but if SOMEHOW it was a Gruden/Allen pairing with Dan stroking the checks like he is now, that could be very promising. They were consistently competitive with a team that was often $10-$20 million under the cap.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

If that's the case bring back Kendall.

I'm with you on that too. I don't care, bad knees or not, I just want to watch some competitive games this season.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I couldn't disagree with you more about Dan Snyder. He is at the root of all of the Redskins' problems. His insistence on being involved in personnel matters through a puppet GM and his hiring of a man who is not qualified to be an NFL Head Coach to lead the team are the primary reasons we are in this mess.

I am sure I am all alone at this point, and I don't really mean to be rude, but it seems like all DCPSR brings to this forum is anti-snyder crud. Certainly it is easy enough to bash this team in its current state, and you guys make good use of this forum to excel at that. But can you back up any of your statements. Cerrato as much as people hate him, served his dues and deserved a shot as much as any other possible GM, the fact that he has messed up on the Oline shows it wasn't a great hire, but saying he is DS' puppet is just fueling stupid speculation. And I know alot of fans who now are done with Zorn, including myself, supported the outside of the box hire, and hoped it would be the start of a new tradition. Again, it wasn't it failed, and I imagine after a two year trial, both Cerrato and Zorn will be let go.

I am not defending where we are, but just riding the crest of frustration to endlessly attack the owner seems petty.

[JLee9718]

I just hate the fact that we don't seem to have a chance this year when we play the Cowboys, the Iggles, and the one game remaining with the Giants. I hate those teams and thought we would be dominating them by now. Dream on!

[44Deezel]

Just flipped to Rome is Burning and Tom Friend is laying into Dan Snyder. He says it's as bad as it's ever been for fans. He also said if you switched the Giants O line with the Redskins O-line, the Skins would be 5-0. I'll buy that.

Man, they are all ripping Snyder. They're saying Gruden may take the job because he already worked for Al Davis.

They're saying the Skins will never work with Snyder as the owner. Tom Friend recommended hiring Bruce Allen.

Interesting...

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am sure I am all alone at this point, and I don't really mean to be rude, but it seems like all DCPSR brings to this forum is anti-snyder crud. Certainly it is easy enough to bash this team in its current state, and you guys make good use of this forum to excel at that. But can you back up any of your statements. Cerrato as much as people hate him, served his dues and deserved a shot as much as any other possible GM, the fact that he has messed up on the Oline shows it wasn't a great hire, but saying he is DS' puppet is just fueling stupid speculation. And I know alot of fans who now are done with Zorn, including myself, supported the outside of the box hire, and hoped it would be the start of a new tradition. Again, it wasn't it failed, and I imagine after a two year trial, both Cerrato and Zorn will be let go.

I am not defending where we are, but just riding the crest of frustration to endlessly attack the owner seems petty.

I know what you mean, because I have been bashing Snyder and Cerrato a lot lately. It's getting old even for me, a contributor to said bashing.

Although it is a tired argument, it is the absolute truth in my mind. The evidence for that being, Cerrato was hired in 1999 when Snyder purchased the team, and has been here ever since, except for a short period when Schottenhiemer fired him. The very next season, Marty was fired and Cerrato re-hired. During his time here, Cerrato has only served to weaken this team, yet he continues to keep his job -- in fact getting a promotion in 2002. Our personnel is a mess and so is our cap -- all attributable to Vinny. He's been here 10 years -- certainly long enough to get things in order, or for Snyder to realize he ain't cuttin' it. How Vinny keeps his job is either a great mystery of the universe, or he's Snyder's butt-buddy.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Just flipped to Rome is Burning and Tom Friend is laying into Dan Snyder. He says it's as bad as it's ever been for fans. He also said if you switched the Giants O line with the Redskins O-line, the Skins would be 5-0. I'll buy that.

Man, they are all ripping Snyder. They're saying Gruden may take the job because he already worked for Al Davis.

They're saying the Skins will never work with Snyder as the owner. Tom Friend recommended hiring Bruce Allen.

Interesting...

Bruce Allen is really growing on me. My top notch personal Gruden source says he'd like to see if Dallas becomes an option. I think a lot of potential coaches are hoping to get the Skins and Cowboys engaged in a bidding war in the off-season for their services.

[MTK]

Bring in Allen as GM and Gruden as coach.

[Hog1]

Done!!!!!!!!!!

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

If Zorn loses to KC he is gone after the game IMO, but Snyder could keep Zorn until years end use him as the reason we had a losing season. I registered over at ES and i couldn't take the lack of common sense, how people think we are a one player away from a championship trust me they will believe him too.

Try not to get banned for disagreeing with a mod, creating a new thread, or quoting a picture (this one will get you a permanent ban)

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Try not to get banned for disagreeing with a mod, creating a new thread, or quoting a picture (this one will get you a permanent ban)

... at ES

[MTK]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Try not to get banned for disagreeing with a mod, creating a new thread, or quoting a picture (this one will get you a permanent ban)

I love that, seriously who thinks up garbage like that?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I love that, seriously who thinks up garbage like that?

It's one thing for some rogue fan board to come up with such stuff.. but the OFFICIAL board of the Redskins, the one that the team site links to? Then saying you can't sign up with a regular e-mail address, etc? Completely alienating the greater audience. Matty you would've literally been banned because of this thread, I'm so glad that I started coming here.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

It's one thing for some rogue fan board to come up with such stuff.. but the OFFICIAL board of the Redskins, the one that the team site links to? Then saying you can't sign up with a regular e-mail address, etc? Completely alienating the greater audience. Matty you would've literally been banned because of this thread, I'm so glad that I started coming here.

Gotta wonder if Danny is one of the mods there