Haynesworth Missing From Redskins Offseason Workouts

[Kalisto2010]

No wonder he's always retreating to the sidelines to suck on the oxygen tank.

[takethecake]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

lavar is killing him right now on the radio. I hope AH hears this.

lavar is an effing moron.

Big al's explanation certainly sheds some much needed light on this situation. Sure it might be better for haynesworth to practice with the rest of the team, but it seems like he knows what he's doing and at least there's no going around people's backs or any of that CP tricky business... I, personally, am not worried about him missing these workouts now.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Potentially he's the best player on the team. My eyeballs tell me that he was not at his best. I don't care how many snaps he's played. I'd rather take guys like Vince Wilfork or Jay Ratliff. Give me some lunch pale type guys, not some fat ass prima donna that has to come out of the game after two plays in a row. Or someone who rolls around on the groud like a fish out of water cause he's tired. Or someone that's going to bitch about playing in a 3-4. Lose some damn weight cause he's not as effective at 360lbs. That's obvious. The word is out on Mr. Buttersworth.

Did he play at a different weight in Tennessee??

Damn bro you bitch more than he does, he hasn't bitched at all about the 3-4 despite what people want to believe.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by GMScud

That's a nice article and all, but didn't we hear the same thing in years past about Portis staying in Miami and "working out" at the U, only to see him show up doughy and out of shape? Where was Haynesworth's offseason commitment last year after all his big talk when we signed him? Now all of a sudden he's committed to having a big year? Puuuuh-lease.

The bottom part of this Jason Reid article really tells the tale:

Despite Shanahan's tough talk about players needing to show their commitment to the program if they want to be on the team, the reality is that didn't apply to Haynesworth. The Redskins will cut him a check for a guaranteed $21 million option bonus in April, and Haynesworth's 2010 and 2011 base salaries are guaranteed, too.
With the money Haynesworth is guaranteed, there's no way the Redskins would cut him for not reporting. Moreover, regardless if some in the main building believe Haynesworth has a bad attitude (and trust us, some do), the coaching staff knows they need the guy because he's one of few elite players on the roster.


So basically both parties know damn well he's not going anywhere for financial reasons. His agent probably told him to show up day 1 for PR purposes, then go do whatever the hell you want. Why anyone is giving this guy the benefit of the doubt is beyond me. From the standpoint of a Redskins fan I sure hope he's working hard on his own, but after last season I'll believe it when I see it.


I just don't like the dude.

eacxtly dead on how i feel especaially the last line, great post

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Potentially he's the best player on the team. My eyeballs tell me that he was not at his best. I don't care how many snaps he's played. I'd rather take guys like Vince Wilfork or Jay Ratliff. Give me some lunch pale type guys, not some fat ass prima donna that has to come out of the game after two plays in a row. Or someone who rolls around on the groud like a fish out of water cause he's tired. Or someone that's going to bitch about playing in a 3-4. Lose some damn weight cause he's not as effective at 360lbs. That's obvious. The word is out on Mr. Buttersworth.

Adding Haynesworth took the team from a pathetic 24 sacks in 2008 to 40 team sacks in 2009. He made a huge difference. That sack increase can be attributed solely to Al. Without him, Orakpo would be getting the double teams instead of him and his sacks would not have been there.

As for his durability or the number of plays he's actually on the field...realize he's the only player on our D consistently being double-teamed on every play. He must be to be stopped. He's pushing against 600-700 pounds a play, not 300-350. When he's not on the field, Rak gets the double but that's only when Al is sitting. He adds the dimension to our defense that makes us dangerous...one that leaves the opposing offense with more than one player they wish they could double team, but can't.

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Let him train with the guy that got him in pro bowl shape. He didn't last year and people complain he was out of shape. I imagine he'll be training with the new staff during the season. He made a big impact last year but we signed him to be Godzilla. If this guy gets him back in top shape, Godzilla's what we'll get.

I agree with you. Last year was a waste of a season all around noone was committed to anything especially winning. Big AL said it to many chiefs and they showed it. Hell even CP got out as soon as he seen an opening. So only time will tell.

[SmootSmack]

You'd think Haynesworth is the only player in the whole league not working out with his team.

You know Logan Mankins is sitting at home because he wants a new contract, but most Pats fans aren't that worried because it's March and they know he'll be around when needed. Unfortunately, we Redskins fans have become so enamored with spring football that we seem to forget...that it's March for crying out loud.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Buster

Adding Haynesworth took the team from a pathetic 24 sacks in 2008 to 40 team sacks in 2009. He made a huge difference. That sack increase can be attributed solely to Al. Without him, Orakpo would be getting the double teams instead of him and his sacks would not have been there.

As for his durability or the number of plays he's actually on the field...realize he's the only player on our D consistently being double-teamed on every play. He must be to be stopped. He's pushing against 600-700 pounds a play, not 300-350. When he's not on the field, Rak gets the double but that's only when Al is sitting. He adds the dimension to our defense that makes us dangerous...one that leaves the opposing offense with more than one player they wish they could double team, but can't.

u mean Orakpo, and carter... because for i think 7, of Orakpo's sacks.... and about 4 or carters... Ur boy AL wasnt even on the field.

u seem to forget how much time this guy missed weather it be taking plays off for a breather or getting hurt...

besides that point, i hope he works hard during this off-season and contributes to the best of his ability.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Did he play at a different weight in Tennessee??

According to his 2002 draft profile he weighed in at 320 pounds. These days he's listed at 350.
CNNSI.com - Albert Haynesworth - -

[MTK]

I'm really not seeing a difference

[Dirtbag59]

Oh that Tenneesee. See I thought you mean between when he played in college and now.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

lavar is killing him right now on the radio. I hope AH hears this.

That came out of left field...

Lavar was a role player on the only decent team that he played for here, what gives him the right to blast these guys like he does?

Big Al has certainly accomplished more on much better teams than Lavar ever did.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I do really think Haynesworth would be out of position playing NT in the 3-4. Paying all that money for him to just be a space eater? That seems a bit ridiculous. If you look at true NT, they are bulkier than him and take up more horizontal space (I know this sounds ridiculous). If you look at Casey Hampton and Vince Wilfork, they are built differently than Haynesworth. Honestly, I think that has been a big flaw of the previous FO administration...trying to fit players in the wrong scheme (Orakpo as a 4-3 DE, Landry as a FS, etc., etc.). Now, Shanny and company are new and obviously are working with what they have, and probably have explored having AH at NT. But I also don't blame AH for not wanting to be in a position where he won't be productive and helpful to the team.

Pretty sure you meant Rak at LB in the 4-3? But I see your point. Add Kris Jenkins to the list of prototype NT...that dude is wider than he is tall lol.

I think AH is smart for "casually" saying he'll prefer DE in the 3-4. Smart both because it's definitely the best spot for him in that defense and smart because he's not demanding or saying anything to come across like he's not bought in to the new regime. I tend to think Al is a pretty smart guy.

Putting him at DE in the new scheme could be awesome. It essentially means the opposing offense will struggle mightily to run left and absolutely have to designate 2 blockers to that side full time. BUT it's critical the rest of the DL is at least average to above average or we'll just watch teams run all over us to the right (their right). This Kemo guy needs to come thru and/or we need to find another legit NT AND Daniels must have a fantastic season. Preferably we need another stud there behind Daniels. Going into the off-season I would have though Zoe or Jarmon would be training as Daniels' replacement. I guess the powers that be see those two guys as LBs now? So who will back up Daniels? I mean you sure as hell can't have the mindset a 37 yr old is a sure thing through a season...

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You'd think Haynesworth is the only player in the whole league not working out with his team.

You know Logan Mankins is sitting at home because he wants a new contract, but most Pats fans aren't that worried because it's March and they know he'll be around when needed. Unfortunately, we Redskins fans have become so enamored with spring football that we seem to forget...that it's March for crying out loud.

It's because Spring football is OUR time man, I mean c'mon

[NM Redskin]

I really don't understand why AH is so opposed to playing NT. Won't it be similar to when he was in the 4-3. In both ailments inst AH gonna take on double teams?