Tupac or Biggie

DynamiteRave · 11-03-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I was talking more so about the presentation than the lyrics themselves. Though Rakim's verses were a...mazing. Who knows what guys like Drake are even saying?

Guru passed away earlier this year, hence the rolling over in his grave comment

I do. I can rap some of his songs from heart. Dedicated fan! Well okay, so I just like him because he's sexy. But it counts! I don't think it's really hard to tell what Drake's rapping about, if you listen to the "Thank me Later" CD, there's really decent stuff on there... "Fireworks" and "Unforgettable" are 2 of my favs... Especially since he sampled the "At Your Best" cover by Aaliyah, originally by the Isley Brothers for the "Unforgettable" track.

I have a much harder time with Weezy's lyrics, and I love Weezy cause he has some killer rhymes but some of his lines are just ridiculous.

"Turn you into a vegetable like you lying in soup."

Come on Weezy...

hooskins · 11-03-2010, 02:39 PM

Sorry Dynamite, but Drake is wack. Weezy is also wack IMO. The below Drake parody really says it all:

YouTube - Drake - Best I Ever Had (Parody)

12thMan · 11-03-2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Sorry Dynamite, but Drake is wake. Weezy is also wack IMO. The below Drake parody really says it all:

YouTube - Drake - Best I Ever Had (Parody)

That was funny!

skinsfaninok · 11-03-2010, 04:14 PM

Lil wayne

DynamiteRave · 11-03-2010, 05:47 PM

Easily one of the best song of the 90's and I feel Tupac's best. LOVE this song. And for people that say rap is pointless, this is one of the better ones.

YouTube - 2Pac - Keep Ya Head Up

SmootSmack · 11-03-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Lil wayne

Saw Lil Wayne here once. Biggest entourage I've ever seen for a celebrity here (athlete/actor/musician). Had to have like 40 people with him

mooby · 11-04-2010, 03:27 AM

@Chico: Have you seen the parody of that video? That's got some of the most insanely stupid, yet quotable lines I've heard in a while.

"****ing magnets, how do they work?" Lolllllllllllllll, I'd be suprised if they got a 6th grade education.

@DRave: Don't bother telling her how much they suck, and/or how mentally challenged they are. I've tried that route, and all it does is turn Clown Posse Nation against you. Either she will eventually see it for herself, or she'll turn into one of them. When I see stories like the one about that "Juggalette" who was pregnant, had the baby, and the baby died at birth because her mother didn't know drinking, smoking lots of weed and taking assloads of prescription drugs was bad for the fetus, and how the mother blamed it on the doctors, well it tells me everything I need to know about them.

I do gotta give props to ICP though, if it wasn't for them I wouldn't be able to enjoy ICP parodies because they wouldn't exist. So bless them for that, even if they are turning a large part of my fellow young adults into idiots with no future.

As for Drake/Lil' Wayne, I do enjoy them but I don't think lyrically they match up at all with Biggie and Pac. And even though they are defined as "rappers", when I hear songs where they are speaking almost normally, well it's hard to call them rappers after that. I'm diggin the music but the lyrics just don't compare. For example I love that song "Every Girl" by Young Money but when the entire song is talking about wanting to screw every girl in the world, it's not even comparible to songs like Brenda's Got a Baby.

mlmpetert · 02-11-2011, 02:52 PM

If the Pac-12 wants its domain name, it has to go through Tupac - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF - Yahoo! Sports

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 02-13-2011, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Both are scum and never figured out why people glorified their life. I see football players called scum here for allot less. I guess maybe NFL players are held to a higher standard then MTV. No telling how many kids copied them and are dead today or have killed coping them.

Completely disagree with this statement.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 02-13-2011, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Valleyranchgirl

2Pac touched me Biggie never did.

Did you file a police report?

firstdown · 02-13-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Completely disagree with this statement.

I'd love to know what part of the statement you disagree with. You want your kids growing up as gang bangers?

Chico23231 · 02-13-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I'd love to know what part of the statement you disagree with. You want your kids growing up as gang bangers?

Why cant they tell their story? Certainly growing up in white suburbia I never was exposed to whats in their music...sure its glorified in a sense, but its real. Just like how people like gangster movies or TV ie the Godfather, the Sopranos...its the samething. I just dont like the arguement people are driven to violence cause of the media. People dont like it, change the channel on the TV or radio. Certainly if more people believed your arguement was valid, it wouldnt have seen the absolute massive growth its experienced in the 20 years...its made a shit ton of money for big media businesses as well. People speak with their wallet.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 02-13-2011, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I'd love to know what part of the statement you disagree with. You want your kids growing up as gang bangers?

Not going to have kids but by that logic watching Denzel Washington in Training Day will make all our kids grow up to be corrupt cops.

mooby · 02-14-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Not going to have kids but by that logic watching Denzel Washington in Training Day will make all our kids grow up to be corrupt cops.

If I become a corrupt cop can I get Eva Mendes to be my bitch? Sweet!

firstdown · 02-14-2011, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Why cant they tell their story? Certainly growing up in white suburbia I never was exposed to whats in their music...sure its glorified in a sense, but its real. Just like how people like gangster movies or TV ie the Godfather, the Sopranos...its the samething. I just dont like the arguement people are driven to violence cause of the media. People dont like it, change the channel on the TV or radio. Certainly if more people believed your arguement was valid, it wouldnt have seen the absolute massive growth its experienced in the 20 years...its made a shit ton of money for big media businesses as well. People speak with their wallet.

You answered your own question. The reason its gone on is because of the money and when people have spoke against it they got called racists. I'm not foolish enough to think that ever kid that listen to gangster rap will join a gang but the vulnerable children without guidance are at greater risk. They have the freedom to produce this crap but I don't have to agree that its good for our kids. I'm not blind I can see what is going on wth our youth.

11-03-2010, 02:39 PM	#107
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: Tupac or Biggie Sorry Dynamite, but Drake is wack. Weezy is also wack IMO. The below Drake parody really says it all: YouTube - Drake - Best I Ever Had (Parody) __________________ Vacancy Last edited by hooskins; 11-03-2010 at 09:17 PM. Reason: Apparently I have no control over the English language.

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skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,161	Re: Tupac or Biggie Lil wayne __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

11-04-2010, 03:27 AM	#112
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,480	Re: Tupac or Biggie @Chico: Have you seen the parody of that video? That's got some of the most insanely stupid, yet quotable lines I've heard in a while. "***ing magnets, how do they work?" Lolllllllllllllll, I'd be suprised if they got a 6th grade education. @DRave: Don't bother telling her how much they suck, and/or how mentally challenged they are. I've tried that route, and all it does is turn Clown Posse Nation against you. Either she will eventually see it for herself, or she'll turn into one of them. When I see stories like the one about that "Juggalette" who was pregnant, had the baby, and the baby died at birth because her mother didn't know drinking, smoking lots of weed and taking assloads of prescription drugs was bad for the fetus, and how the mother blamed it on the doctors, well it tells me everything I need to know about them. I do gotta give props to ICP though, if it wasn't for them I wouldn't be able to enjoy ICP parodies because they wouldn't exist. So bless them for that, even if they are turning a large part of my fellow young adults into idiots with no future. As for Drake/Lil' Wayne, I do enjoy them but I don't think lyrically they match up at all with Biggie and Pac. And even though they are defined as "rappers", when I hear songs where they are speaking almost normally, well it's hard to call them rappers after that. I'm diggin the music but the lyrics just don't compare. For example I love that song "Every Girl" by Young Money but when the entire song is talking about wanting to screw every girl in the world, it's not even comparible to songs like Brenda's Got a Baby. __________________ Hail to the Football Team*

02-11-2011, 02:52 PM	#113
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,261	Re: Tupac or Biggie If the Pac-12 wants its domain name, it has to go through Tupac - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF - Yahoo! Sports

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