Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The beat reporter from ESPN 980, Chris Russell, got word from some within the organization who said that there was a world of difference with Grossman at the helm. There was so much better execution of the offense, a smoother calling of the plays from Kyle Shanahan to the QB -- and the efficiency with which they were communicated in the huddle, to the grasp of the plays, not having to have the play repeated from Shanahan, no awkward delays; all thanks to Grossman's superior knowledge of the offense. All luxuries that they haven't been able to enjoy all season.

This all goes back to my own VIP experience at this years OTA's. Rex looked sharp and finely tuned like he had a year or ever more under his belt of this system.

Dmac looked lost for the most part of practice. Did I think this would carry over, of course not but clearly dmac didn't get it as the whole world could see from week to week the inconsistency and the inability to grasp the Offense.

As to your post that was pretty obvious to most during the second half, thats what the team has been looking for all season. If Tana makes the catch (That he has to make) in the 4th w/5 mins to go HIGH PROBILITY we come home with a W.

Or if our Defense/Special Teams could have just played a middle of the road game w/the same 2nd half Offense output.

[Coff]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The beat reporter from ESPN 980, Chris Russell, got word from some within the organization who said that there was a world of difference with Grossman at the helm. There was so much better execution of the offense, a smoother calling of the plays from Kyle Shanahan to the QB -- and the efficiency with which they were communicated in the huddle, to the grasp of the plays, not having to have the play repeated from Shanahan, no awkward delays; all thanks to Grossman's superior knowledge of the offense. All luxuries that they haven't been able to enjoy all season.

That all sounds nice, but what is a bit disconcerting is that the Shanahans are unyielding in how they want their players to walk, talk, eat, sleep, drink, etc. And at what cost? The two most talented players on the team have been marginalized. When one creates a system in which Rex Grossman is more productive than Donavan McNabb, one has to question the system.

That being said, if the Skins can groom a young QB in that system from day one, they won't have to face many of these issues. Jake Locker could be a good fit; he's a better athlete than he is a quarterback, and a player like that benefits from a structure heavy, scripted offense.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Coff

That all sounds nice, but what is a bit disconcerting is that the Shanahans are unyielding in how they want their players to walk, talk, eat, sleep, drink, etc. And at what cost? The two most talented players on the team have been marginalized. When one creates a system in which Rex Grossman is more productive than Donavan McNabb, one has to question the system.

That being said, if the Skins can groom a young QB in that system from day one, they won't have to face many of these issues. Jake Locker could be a good fit; he's a better athlete than he is a quarterback, and a player like that benefits from a structure heavy, scripted offense.

Really? One can't possibly question the player?

[Coff]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Really? One can't possibly question the player?

I'm not suggesting you can't; the point I'm making is that the system stands out as questionable. Fault is never 100% for one party and 0% for the other. But if you have one of the most talented QBs in the league standing on the sideline, and a back-up quarterback taking the snaps, there's a problem.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Coff

I'm not suggesting you can't; the point I'm making is that the system stands out as questionable. Fault is never 100% for one party and 0% for the other. But if you have one of the most talented QBs in the league standing on the sideline, and a back-up quarterback taking the snaps, there's a problem.

Well, there's a problem here because we don't have playmakers offensively. And it's pretty clear Donovan McNabb was at one time among the most talented QBs in the league, but not anymore.

The system seemed to work well in Houston.

[MTK]

Rex simply knows the offense better, and is perhaps more coachable than DM.

[30gut]

Mike Shanahan said (and most people know) that an offense takes more then a 13 games or a year to master.
Other QBs like Culter and Cassel stuggled in their 1st years of a new system.
Grossman himself has said that it gets easier the in year 2.
Oh wait McNabb won't get a year 2.

Something w/ this whole situation ain't kosher.
After furhter review I want to change my vote to: Rex Grossman will be the starter next year

[53Fan]

I think Shanahan wants to pick his own QB and at some point next year Mallett starts.

[Hog1]

The Miami and S FLorida stations are buzzing with the possibility of getting a vet QB in the off-season. McNabb has been bandied about.......often

[JPPT1974]

Well hope McNabb is brought on back. But think that Rex could be the new Redskins QB. If all is said and done. And if Rex is signed next year.

[GusFrerotte]

Why the crush on Locker? He never really has impressed me that much, especially this season. Rex wil be the starter come week one no matter what happens or if we draft a QB. We have a firstand second round pick in 2011, I say give Trent Williams some help, and make the scout team work overtime to earn their inflated paychecks. Whoever these guys are, they have been epic failures overall in terms of talent evaluation. I like Trent Williams a lot, but he isn't going to last long or be worth a damn if he keeps having to line up next to a bunch of bums for the next several seasons. Draft some damn guards with the first two picks then go for the best available tackle in the latter rounds. If Mallet is available for our #1, I admit I would be tempted to go for him, but I wouldn't pull the trigger. No matter who our guy is, our line sucks so much that he would be ineffective. Both lines need to be addressed in the offseason, and I would look at a CB and LB. Fletch can't be the man forever.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Why the crush on Locker? He never really has impressed me that much, especially this season. Rex wil be the starter come week one no matter what happens or if we draft a QB. We have a firstand second round pick in 2011, I say give Trent Williams some help, and make the scout team work overtime to earn their inflated paychecks. Whoever these guys are, they have been epic failures overall in terms of talent evaluation. I like Trent Williams a lot, but he isn't going to last long or be worth a damn if he keeps having to line up next to a bunch of bums for the next several seasons. Draft some damn guards with the first two picks then go for the best available tackle in the latter rounds. If Mallet is available for our #1, I admit I would be tempted to go for him, but I wouldn't pull the trigger. No matter who our guy is, our line sucks so much that he would be ineffective. Both lines need to be addressed in the offseason, and I would look at a CB and LB. Fletch can't be the man forever.

If we don't develop a QB that can play on a consistent basis then stocking the line with early draft picks is going to produce results similar to that of the 49ers.

As of today they have 3 first round picks, and two early second round picks all drafted by them. Their record is 5-9 in the NFC West.

The best teams are able to find 3rd round picks and beyond and develop them consistently enough that the team not only has a great starting line but enough depth to deal with injuries. The Jets are the only elite team right now that has a line stocked with guys who were 1st rounders, either taken by the Jets or signed as a free agent. Yet their QB has a measly 74 QB rating.

How is that when he has all these great receivers and all day to throw? The fact of the matter is the QB more times then not is the problem. Weather it's a system problem or inability to adjust to the speed of the game problem. The fact remains that if you have a good QB you're at least going to see something.

Aaron Rodgers and Big Ben have lines that at the very least are comparable to ours. Yet they top the league in passing stats year in and year out. Peyton Manning has a line that would make most of you shutter and Brady's line has one measly first round pick.

Despite the McNabb experiments utter failure I still trust that we have a coaching staff that can develop a young signal caller. And history suggest that our odds of stumbling onto a Schuab or even a Romo is very low. You're much better off using the first round to draft a QB. Especially if you think that QB is a great fit for your system and all indications seem to suggest that Locker is a great fit. At the very least Shanahan is impressed with him and in the end thats all that matters.

I might be in the minority but I think we need to drop this idea that we need to stock the line with early draft picks. As of now we probably just need one more 1st or 2nd round pick along the line but beyond that I would rather get a pipeline going of 3rd rounders and beyond on an annual basis like the rest of the leagues elite team and develop a line that way.

I strongly encourage everyone to look at the ESPN depth charts around the league and look at the O-Line depth charts. You'll see where many of the best teams have lines composed of 5th, 6th, 7th, and UDFA's with one or two early round picks serving as the anchors. The real problem with the line up until this point hasn't necessarily been a lack of binging on early round picks (though it had been a problem before Trent came along) but rather an inability to develop late round guys past Heyer.

Above all I don't want to go into 2012 with our hopes hinging on a rookie QB especially if it means passing up a guy that fits our system in 2011.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

If we don't develop a QB that can play on a consistent basis then stocking the line with early draft picks is going to produce results similar to that of the 49ers.

As of today they have 3 first round picks, and two early second round picks all drafted by them. Their record is 5-9 in the NFC West.

The best teams are able to find 3rd round picks and beyond and develop them consistently enough that the team not only has a great starting line but enough depth to deal with injuries. The Jets are the only elite team right now that has a line stocked with guys who were 1st rounders, either taken by the Jets or signed as a free agent. Yet their QB has a measly 74 QB rating.

How is that when he has all these great receivers and all day to throw? The fact of the matter is the QB more times then not is the problem. Weather it's a system problem or inability to adjust to the speed of the game problem. The fact remains that if you have a good QB you're at least going to see something.

Aaron Rodgers and Big Ben have lines that at the very least are comparable to ours. Yet they top the league in passing stats year in and year out. Peyton Manning has a line that would make most of you shutter and Brady's line has one measly first round pick.

Despite the McNabb experiments utter failure I still trust that we have a coaching staff that can develop a young signal caller. And history suggest that our odds of stumbling onto a Schuab or even a Romo is very low. You're much better off using the first round to draft a QB. Especially if you think that QB is a great fit for your system and all indications seem to suggest that Locker is a great fit. At the very least Shanahan is impressed with him and in the end thats all that matters.

I might be in the minority but I think we need to drop this idea that we need to stock the line with early draft picks. As of now we probably just need one more 1st or 2nd round pick along the line but beyond that I would rather get a pipeline going of 3rd rounders and beyond on an annual basis like the rest of the leagues elite team and develop a line that way.

I strongly encourage everyone to look at the ESPN depth charts around the league and look at the O-Line depth charts. You'll see where many of the best teams have lines composed of 5th, 6th, 7th, and UDFA's with one or two early round picks serving as the anchors. The real problem with the line up until this point hasn't necessarily been a lack of binging on early round picks (though it had been a problem before Trent came along) but rather an inability to develop late round guys past Heyer.

Above all I don't want to go into 2012 with our hopes hinging on a rookie QB especially if it means passing up a guy that fits our system in 2011.

Good points.

[12thMan]

I think that people believe unless Rex morph's into a Pro Bowl QB he has no chance of starting next year. I just don't see it that way. He will be intensely competitive, regardless of whom the Skins bring in, and out to prove he still has NFL starting bonafides. He doesn't have to be the best or most talented QB on the roster, just the one who has mastered the system. Considering he's been sitting for nearly two years, he a pretty solid game. Yes, turnovers included.

That said, outside of my wild Luck prediction the Skins could wheel and deal with the Eagles for Mr. Kolb's services. Because we know for sure they aint keeping both QB's and Vick would be a fool to leave Philly, even if the Skins throw the bank at him.

[GusFrerotte]

Kolb would make more sense than Locker, but that would cost us precious picks. Look for us to keep Rex and MR. Beck and maybe draft a QB in the 5th round or get a scrub FA for QB #3. Is it certain Mallet is coming out this season?