Snyder Camp Upset!!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

When Abe Pollin employed Wes Unseld year after year after year as his head coach/general manager and the team repeatedly failed to make the playoffs and had a piss poor scouting dept and no presence in Europe, and Unseld even said I probably don't deserve this job; everyone was all "wow, Pollin is such a loyal guy good for him" Snyder employs Cerrato and it's all "racquetball butt buddies" Why? Because people just dont care in DC as much about the Wizards as they do the Redskins. I have Wizards season tix, I have been to hundreds more Wizards games than any other team. I don't carevabout them half as much as I do the Skins.

Two TOTALLY different situations. Unseld helped bring a championship and winning basketball to this city. He was a GREAT NBA center at 6'7. There was a respect factor there and that's why Polin got somewhat of a pass. Polin considered Unseld like family, just like Snyder thinks of Joe Gibbs. Cerrato was hated from the start, when he was hiding out in a Dulles airport hotel room trying to get in Redskin Park while John Cooke and Casserly were still there. Plus his not wanting veterans around. I could go on and on about why people hate Vinny. What did he do for anyone to like him? People DO care here about the Wizards, and if they can get a couple more strong draft picks to go along with Wall, they will come very close to being the main draw here. DC will always be a Redskin town cause of the rich tradition, but with a new generation of fans seeing nothing but losing, and a shitty game day experience at Fed Ex, the Redskins certainly are not what they use to be.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Mooby, I definitely agree. From a legal standpoint it may be legit on Snyder's part. But PR wise, he could take a major hit especially if he wins. The big guy bullying tge little guy, killing freedom of the press, etc. Not a smart decision in my opinion. Sometimes you just have to chin up and walk away.

Question for those who would know personally, is the devil caricature anti-semitic or just offensive?

None of this will do anything to salvage the reputation of an owner that has been consistently vilified since assuming ownership of the Redskins. I agree with Mooby, the only winner here is whomever stands to benefit from any litigated compensation in the event there is a damage award ruling favoring the owner. The results won't do much to sway the overwhelmingly negative opinion shared by so many in the Redskin community, if anything, it may only serve to magnify the negativity.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Wow, take a moment to read Donovan's letter to the Washington City Paper ownership. Snyder and company really think it's them vs. the world. These guys are so out of touch with reality and so far up their own rears to realize they are only propagating more negative perception, spin, articles, opinion etc. by sending that letter. They are creating the exact thing they think they are preventing by a potential lawsuit.

It is so ironic it is sad.

This is the one thing that I do not like about the guy. He NEVER says anything. He hides behind Gibbs, he hides behind Vinny, he hides behind his lawyers. I'm not saying he has to come out and talk whenever someone bashes him. But the real negative stuff that gives the team real bad press, he should come out and talk about it. Instead, he gets Donavan to talk for him. Be a man about it and if it really bothers you enough to sue then respond. Instead, just like he did when the bad press came out about suing season ticket holders, he pushes Donavan out there.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Two TOTALLY different situations. Unseld helped bring a championship and winning basketball to this city. He was a GREAT NBA center at 6'7. There was a respect factor there and that's why Polin got somewhat of a pass. Polin considered Unseld like family, just like Snyder thinks of Joe Gibbs. Cerrato was hated from the start, when he was hiding out in a Dulles airport hotel room trying to get in Redskin Park while John Cooke and Casserly were still there. Plus his not wanting veterans around. I could go on and on about why people hate Vinny. What did he do for anyone to like him? People DO care here about the Wizards, and if they can get a couple more strong draft picks to go along with Wall, they will come very close to being the main draw here. DC will always be a Redskin town cause of the rich tradition, but with a new generation of fans seeing nothing but losing, and a shitty game day experience at Fed Ex, the Redskins certainly are what they use to be.

Well what Unseld did as a player shouldn't have anything to do with him being a general manager. But whatever, beyond that we can just agree to disagree. I'm done with this topic. I've said what I have to say (and apparently crossed some sort of line) and I'm ready to move on

[freddyg12]

Another jab at the Danny & how he's handling this in today's wash. post:

Gene Weingarten - Memo to Dan Snyder: Thank you for your stewardship of the Redskins

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Another jab at the Danny & how he's handling this in today's wash. post:

Gene Weingarten - Memo to Dan Snyder: Thank you for your stewardship of the Redskins

$78 million dollar QB? Who's that? (Yes, I understand he's using a bit of poet "creativity".)

So, this is the ultimate plan to run Daniel Snyder out of town? Careful, he might consider moving the Redskins with him.

[Terpfan76]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Another jab at the Danny & how he's handling this in today's wash. post:

Gene Weingarten - Memo to Dan Snyder: Thank you for your stewardship of the Redskins

Wow, if Danny Boy got his panties in a bunch over the prior article, he'll blow his frickin' stack when he sees this one lol

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Another jab at the Danny & how he's handling this in today's wash. post:

Gene Weingarten - Memo to Dan Snyder: Thank you for your stewardship of the Redskins

Pretty harsh but fair.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Terpfan76

Wow, if Danny Boy got his panties in a bunch over the prior article, he'll blow his frickin' stack when he sees this one lol

This one is pretty clever, it's like the writer wanted to dis Snyder w/out actually getting into any details about the City mag. article or any specifics (other than the liberal use of '$78 mill qb'). From an NFC east team's perspective, it's sadly pretty accurate.

[Lotus]

The article which provoked the lawsuit is three months old. If he had to act, why did Snyder wait so long to do so?

I have trouble understanding how Snyder does not see that the no-comment high road would be the best road, especially since he's had three months to think it over. But now the can of worms has been opened.

I am not a great Snyder fan but I feel sorry for the way that his personal business will be put on public display in the coming months. Not too sorry, though, since he is, in a way, asking for it.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Why is SmootSmack putting this much time and effort into supporting Dan Snyder aka Montgomery Burns?

I read your post explaining what you thought was inaccurate about the City Paper article then and now and it was mostly insignificant IMO.

No disrespect as I feel you are an invaluable influence around here, but you are treading a fine line as a professional insider and MOD.

The current owner of the Washington Redskins has done some really sketchy stuff. Period.

SS isn't supporting him, he's just pointing out there is two sides to every story is all.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Another jab at the Danny & how he's handling this in today's wash. post:

Gene Weingarten - Memo to Dan Snyder: Thank you for your stewardship of the Redskins

When will Dan Snyder learn? THIS!
"I know you are taking some criticism today from carping media types. They seem to think that you are not only behaving like a petty, vindictive bully but also that you are being strategically stupid - by bringing a vast new audience to a three-month-old, otherwise-obscure alternative-media piece, which can be found here."

[Defensewins]

Seriously, a university could run an entire course on Dan Snyder and how NOT to run your sports franchise and handle the press. It is clear Dan does not always learn from his mistakes. COME ON DAN! Figure it out!

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Mooby, I definitely agree. From a legal standpoint it may be legit on Snyder's part. But PR wise, he could take a major hit especially if he wins. The big guy bullying tge little guy, killing freedom of the press, etc. Not a smart decision in my opinion. Sometimes you just have to chin up and walk away.

Question for those who would know personally, is the devil caricature anti-semitic or just offensive?

my mom doesnt have jewish blood, she converted when she married my step dad, i went to hebrew school and sunday school, was bar mitzah'd on mt. messiah in israel.

If the article's subject matter was related to DS being jewish, then yes I would agree the horn thing would be an offensive reference to the history of jewish people being depicted as having horns but . . .

this article didnt mention his faith, it was about his past actions as owner of the skins which gives context to the devil horns, unibrow, goatee etc. IMO

what i find not offensive but unfortunate is DS's decision to use the bigotry card and solicit a condemnation from (forget the name) some jewish center in dc. he is probably a member there, donates money etc.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Whaaaa! Somebody said something bad about me! What a baby...