2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Everything you said about DeAngelo Hall is absolutely correct. I'm rough on Hall most of the time, but he's the best cornerback on the roster. Hall had a bad year last year. With a new position coach, I look for tons of improvement from Hall this coming season.

Yeah, but remember that some of the things Hall did bad last season wouldn't be changed from a simple coaching change. Hall did things last year that were pee wee football fundamentals, things that either you can do it or you can't.

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Yeah, but remember that some of the things Hall did bad last season wouldn't be changed from a simple coaching change. Hall did things last year that were pee wee football fundamentals, things that either you can do it or you can't.

Hall is a gambler likes to jump routes and guess, but is the best corner we have right now. We aren't going to get a true shut down corner at this point in FA or the draft.

Our defense needs to apply more pressure consistently to cover up our weakness at corner. To me Orakpo needs a big year, and hopefully Jenkins can play like we saw in the preseason. A lot of the time we give a first down on 3rd and long is due to no pressure from our pass rush.

Bottom line we are stuck with hall so we need to find ways cause some havoc on QBs.



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[SmootSmack]

Per some guy named Adam Schefter (yeah no idea who he is either), Tim Hightower is visiting the Patriots today

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

That sucks. I don't want to lose that guy.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Per some guy named Adam Schefter (yeah no idea who he is either), Tim Hightower is visiting the Patriots today

I've been wondering why the Redskins haven't re-signed Tim Hightower. Perhaps they feel confident with Royster and Helu. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Redskins drafted a young running back prospect in the later rounds.

[los panda]

the patriots are known for having the best rb in the league, year in year out

[That Guy]

hall's been a poor true #1 cb for more of his career. i'd imagine a new year and a new coach aren't going to change that much, judging from past performance.

[GTripp0012]

I don't understand why people are so worried about being able to find a replacement for Hall if the team cuts him for cap space.

Andre Goodman, Kelly Jennings, Chris Johnson, Phillip Buchanon are all UFAs right now. None would command more than a one year deal.

Ultimately, you have to replace him through draft and development, but that was never not the case, and it doesn't matter if he's on the roster or not: it doesn't make acquiring a starting CB more difficult.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't understand why people are so worried about being able to find a replacement for Hall if the team cuts him for cap space.

Andre Goodman, Kelly Jennings, Chris Johnson, Phillip Buchanon are all UFAs right now. None would command more than a one year deal.

Ultimately, you have to replace him through draft and development, but that was never not the case, and it doesn't matter if he's on the roster or not: it doesn't make acquiring a starting CB more difficult.

C'mon Tripp none of those guys have the playmaking ability of Hall. Especially Johnson and Buchanon.

We all wish Hall would give consistent effort, both mentally and physically, but it's a little silly to pretend he's nothing more than an average talent.

[SmootSmack]

Pats also had Grant and Addai visit. I can say with 98.375% confidence we're bringing back Hightower and adding Owen Schmitt.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Goat

C'mon Tripp none of those guys have the playmaking ability of Hall. Especially Johnson and Buchanon.

We all wish Hall would give consistent effort, both mentally and physically, but it's a little silly to pretend he's nothing more than an average talent.

2, 4, 6, 5: win totals with Hall on the team.

I'm not going to argue for or against Hall as a playmaker today, but I will tell you that no correlation exists between plays he makes and games the Redskins win. Its entirely possible that we would have won fewer (or more) games in 2010 without him, but because the team has had so little success and because he's such a liability in coverage, there's no argument to be made that he's a significant or critical member of the team going forward.

Right now, he's just getting paid a decent percentage of our cap. We can easily work it out so we can keep him, but what's the point? We've had his age 25-28 seasons and didn't get anything from them in terms of coverage on the back end. I highly doubt it's going to get better as he ages.

[GTripp0012]

And I wouldn't see the evil of cutting Hall and his $6 million salary, and then bringing him back at 1 year/$1.5 million. It's more than he would get elsewhere, he can still wear the 'C' patch on gamedays, and we're saving more than $4 million on the cap to do so.

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Pats also had Grant and Addai visit. I can say with 98.375% confidence we're bringing back Hightower and adding Owen Schmitt.

Would we cut young or carry 2 FBs? Either way I can't say I'm in favor of that move.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

And I wouldn't see the evil of cutting Hall and his $6 million salary, and then bringing him back at 1 year/$1.5 million. It's more than he would get elsewhere, he can still wear the 'C' patch on gamedays, and we're saving more than $4 million on the cap to do so.

Someone would probably pay him more than 1.5 million. Besides.. he's still probably our best corner, which isn't saying mcuh. Hopefully Morris can get him to play to his potential.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Pats also had Grant and Addai visit. I can say with 98.375% confidence we're bringing back Hightower and adding Owen Schmitt.

I like both those moves.