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Old 04-30-2012, 09:20 AM   #1
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I don't see what the fuss is about really. Yeah I get the argument that a potential starter at other positions could have been taken with that pick. If that's your beef, ok.

But a 4th rounder is no real threat to a guy like RG3 who we just gave up a fortune to get.

I think their roles are pretty clear.
For once you think the media and fans would be happy with a "plan b." The team has been so heavily criticized (myself included) on having to go into the draft having to find heavy impact players with every draft pick because they were so limited in the past. You clearly see with the Cousin, Keenan Robinson and Straight Outta Compton pick, these are plan B, talented reserves who provide a potential plan B down the line. Isnt it nice to have that luxury? Now we are building talented depth, people are gonna criticize? Anyone at ESPN and sports talk radio can go to hell if they are serious about a quarterback controversy comment.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:23 AM   #2
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I don't see what the fuss is about really. Yeah I get the argument that a potential starter at other positions could have been taken with that pick. If that's your beef, ok.

But a 4th rounder is no real threat to a guy like RG3 who we just gave up a fortune to get.

I think their roles are pretty clear.
Wasn't Tom Brady what a 6 or 7th round pick and my point is you(teams in general) just don't know.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:33 AM   #3
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I don't see what the fuss is about really. Yeah I get the argument that a potential starter at other positions could have been taken with that pick. If that's your beef, ok.

But a 4th rounder is no real threat to a guy like RG3 who we just gave up a fortune to get.

I think their roles are pretty clear.
We see it all the time in the NFL where I guy that's drafted late ends up beating out a higher round pick. Let's not sit here and say that it can't happen. I hope it doesn't but it can happen.

So what if Cousins outplays RG3 in camp? Are you saying this isn't a possibility?
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:36 AM   #4
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We see it all the time in the NFL where I guy that's drafted late ends up beating out a higher round pick. Let's not sit here and say that it can't happen. I hope it doesn't but it can happen.

So what if Cousins outplays RG3 in camp? Are you saying this isn't a possibility?
No, I don't think there's much of a possibility of Cousins outplaying RG3, since he's simply not going to see a ton of snaps. Plus it's likely that Grossman remains the #2 and Cousins is the #3.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:13 AM   #5
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Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

There are alot of people who said we can't find a Franchise QB in the 4th rd, but yet some of those same people are saying RG3 are 1st rd QB needs to be worried about Cousins our 4th rd picked QB. Please make up your minds can you find a Starting QB in the 4th rd or not. MS has made it clear to both QB's.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:16 AM   #6
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There are alot of people who said we can't find a Franchise QB in the 4th rd, but yet some of those same people are saying RG3 are 1st rd QB needs to be worried about Cousins our 4th rd picked QB. Please make up your minds can you find a Starting QB in the 4th rd or not. MS has made it clear to both QB's.
Thank you NYC and Matty. This talk of Cousins' starting has got to stop. We drafted a clear starter and a backup - period.
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Thank you NYC and Matty. This talk of Cousins' starting has got to stop. We drafted a clear starter and a backup - period.


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Didn't the Colts take a QB in the 7th?
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Didn't the Colts take a QB in the 7th?
QB CONTROVERSY! Will the Colts still start Luck after taking a qb with the last pick in the entire draft!? Stay tuned!
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QB CONTROVERSY! Will the Colts still start Luck after taking a qb with the last pick in the entire draft!? Stay tuned!
I think that is a totally different situation. That 7th round QB may be lucky to make the team. Cousins was viewed by many as a potential starter in the NFL. For a team to draft two starting QB's, especially after giving up so much to get one of them, it is a bit of a head scratcher
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I think that is a totally different situation. That 7th round QB may be lucky to make the team. Cousins was viewed by many as a potential starter in the NFL. For a team to draft two starting QB's, especially after giving up so much to get one of them, it is a bit of a head scratcher
The fact that he went 4th round shows that teams viewed him as a backup, at least to start his career. Griffin was drafted as a starting QB, Cousins was not.
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I think that is a totally different situation. That 7th round QB may be lucky to make the team. Cousins was viewed by many as a potential starter in the NFL. For a team to draft two starting QB's, especially after giving up so much to get one of them, it is a bit of a head scratcher


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Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

My sincere apologies if this has been posted all ready but Gruden's camp on Cousins is pretty good probably better then RGIII's.

Gruden's QB Camp: Kirk Cousins (FULL)- HD - YouTube
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:14 PM   #14
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My sincere apologies if this has been posted all ready but Gruden's camp on Cousins is pretty good probably better then RGIII's.

Gruden's QB Camp: Kirk Cousins (FULL)- HD - YouTube
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't agree at all. Gruden's tape was pretty unflattering as I see it. Gruden showed Cousins was a very poised and eloquent QB, who has potential to be a great leader. BUT, Gruden seemed to highlight all of his mistakes:
(1) fumbling snaps (?probs w wet ball)
(2) trying to force the ball twice into bad reads leading to two interceptions
(3) problems throwing fade routes -> another interception
(4) losing control/spiking the ball -> 15 yard penalty in redzone

Cousins even says, "I'm not RG3".. Watching the Georgia game, Cousins was good - but 90% of his throws were within 10-15 yards, had two picks and one safety from a bubble screen at the 1 yard line. In contrast, I've watched some of RG3's games and they were among the some of the best games I've seen - immaculate deep ball, great accuracy, great confidence, and amazing plays with the game on the line on the national spotlight -- truly an elite athelete *having fun*.

I don't think there's ANY competition for starting QB. But we do have a backup with good potential down the road, which is a great thing. With some development with Shanahan, I do think there's potential to sell high & recoup picks.

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Old 04-30-2012, 10:39 AM   #15
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Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

the broncos took a QB in the 2nd. no ones talking controversy there. besides griffin, this was our best pick in the draft. some in the media will bash us now, but those same people will be praising our brilliance if/when griffin gets injured and we have a capable backup.
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