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Old 08-23-2012, 11:08 PM   #1
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He is our best corner - but - that aint sayin much and at the end of the day it just aint good enough. He catches all the hell from everyone because he runs his mouth. You know he does.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:43 PM   #2
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I don't fanatically hate on D. Hall like some people, but I think he is at best a 2nd or nickel corner.

As it always happens, people love to harp on just one guy. But our secondary as a whole is very mediocre. Hall may be the best of them, but that is not saying much. And saying that he is the worst is pretty stupid.

Personally I thought that last season the coaching staff was pretty aggressive and put a lot on a mediocre secondary. Hopefully that doesnt happen again but who knows.

The Skins need to either get lucky in drafting a starting corner or acquire one free agency (and not a headcase like Aquib).

Also we need to see what happens with the safety position, which has been an issue ever since Sean Taylor's passing.

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Old 08-24-2012, 12:22 AM   #3
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Re: Secondary a Primary Concern

I would say we all agree to your last point.
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Old 08-24-2012, 09:50 AM   #4
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Wilson hands down is out best corner. As for DHall? I just want the guy to play ball. Quit starting shit on the field cause you can't back it up w/ your play. He can't tackle or cover but he's got great ball skills. I think DHall would've been a great wr. He never even should have tried to be a DB. But the coaches need to help him out and not leave him one on one with guys like Dez Bryant.
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Wilson hands down is out best corner. As for DHall? I just want the guy to play ball. Quit starting shit on the field cause you can't back it up w/ your play. He can't tackle or cover but he's got great ball skills. I think DHall would've been a great wr. He never even should have tried to be a DB. But the coaches need to help him out and not leave him one on one with guys like Dez Bryant.
I honestly don't think any of our guys can cover the likes of Bryant, Marshall, or any top WR one-on-one in key situations. You can do that when you have a shut down corner like Nnamdi (when he was in Oakland) or Revis. When you have guys like that, you can send the house on a blitz and leave your shutdown corner one-on-one covering the WR. You really can't do that in key situations with our mediocre secondary.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:19 AM   #6
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I honestly don't think any of our guys can cover the likes of Bryant, Marshall, or any top WR one-on-one in key situations. You can do that when you have a shut down corner like Nnamdi (when he was in Oakland) or Revis. When you have guys like that, you can send the house on a blitz and leave your shutdown corner one-on-one covering the WR. You really can't do that in key situations with our mediocre secondary.
They cant. Look at recent history. Only way they can cover number ones is if the front 7 puts so much pressure on the qb that he cant get em the ball. Anytime i see an opposing qb with alot of time i hold a pillow in front of my face like im watching a damn horror movie. Rome wasnt built in a day though. I keep hearing bob barker say " redskin d- backs , come on down - your the next contestant on the time to get gone!
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They cant. Look at recent history. Only way they can cover number ones is if the front 7 puts so much pressure on the qb that he cant get em the ball. Anytime i see an opposing qb with alot of time i hold a pillow in front of my face like im watching a damn horror movie. Rome wasnt built in a day though. I keep hearing bob barker say " redskin d- backs , come on down - your the next contestant on the time to get gone!
Everytime I see Haslett send a jailhouse break blitz, I am always prepared to see a long completion or even a TD.
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Everytime I see Haslett send a jailhouse break blitz, I am always prepared to see a long completion or even a TD.
Same here. Trouble is if you don't get pressure on the QB just by rushing 4, then you give the opposing QB and WRs plenty of time to get open against our bum secondary. Orakpo and Kerrigan are so key for us. If they can get pressure without having to send the house, then the LBs can drop into a zone and take away the underneath outlets, while the QB won't have time to go deep over our bum secondary.

But if we have to send the house to get pressure, we're in trouble. It's all up to Orakpo and Kerrigan (and the D Line) to hide the secondary problems.
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Same here. Trouble is if you don't get pressure on the QB just by rushing 4, then you give the opposing QB and WRs plenty of time to get open against our bum secondary. Orakpo and Kerrigan are so key for us. If they can get pressure without having to send the house, then the LBs can drop into a zone and take away the underneath outlets, while the QB won't have time to go deep over our bum secondary.

But if we have to send the house to get pressure, we're in trouble. It's all up to Orakpo and Kerrigan (and the D Line) to hide the secondary problems.
Bingo. Great post dude. Our dynamic duo will be better this year than last!
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Same here. Trouble is if you don't get pressure on the QB just by rushing 4, then you give the opposing QB and WRs plenty of time to get open against our bum secondary. Orakpo and Kerrigan are so key for us. If they can get pressure without having to send the house, then the LBs can drop into a zone and take away the underneath outlets, while the QB won't have time to go deep over our bum secondary.

But if we have to send the house to get pressure, we're in trouble. It's all up to Orakpo and Kerrigan (and the D Line) to hide the secondary problems.
That's what I said earlier about the Giants and their ability to overcome a poor secondary. They were able to generate a rush with their front-four and not expose the secondary.
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Same here. Trouble is if you don't get pressure on the QB just by rushing 4, then you give the opposing QB and WRs plenty of time to get open against our bum secondary. Orakpo and Kerrigan are so key for us. If they can get pressure without having to send the house, then the LBs can drop into a zone and take away the underneath outlets, while the QB won't have time to go deep over our bum secondary.

But if we have to send the house to get pressure, we're in trouble. It's all up to Orakpo and Kerrigan (and the D Line) to hide the secondary problems.
They play a major part in the pass rush but the inside guys need to step it up as well. I think we have a good defense, but I'm not sure I see one that can dominate.
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Everytime I see Haslett send a jailhouse break blitz, I am always prepared to see a long completion or even a TD.
Hmmmm. That reminds me of - wait for it - the dallas game!
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I decided to check out this thread cause theres 3 threads with "Redskins" and "10" already created.
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I decided to check out this thread cause theres 3 threads with "Redskins" and "10" already created.
...and?
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...and?
..and we don't need 3 threads on the same subject...
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