Redskins 2013 Salary Cap Status

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Honestly, I'm cool with cutting Josh Wilson, London (even though they said they wouldnt) and giving new deals to Orakpo and Trent. Chester? I wouldn't cut him because he was better than Lichtensteiger last year, but Lichtensteiger signed a very cheap deal, and we have LeRibeus whom Foerester said is a starter, so maybe we should make the move sooner rather than later on Chester. Does Josh Morgan go? Its going to get interesting in the next 4 hours

I hope that is a joke. I can't imagine cutting our best DB (and taking a cap hit thereby) when we have other DB needs to fill.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I hope that is a joke. I can't imagine cutting our best DB (and taking a cap hit thereby) when we have other DB needs to fill.

No joke, he is a nickleback at best in this league. He gets pushed around too much. He was slightly better than DHall but thats not saying much. I was suggesting we cut him and sign Talib and Toler, two guys who can compete.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

No joke, he is a nickleback at best in this league. He gets pushed around too much. He was slightly better than DHall but thats not saying much. I was suggesting we cut him and sign Talib and Toler, two guys who can compete.

So basically we would have a defense pretty much made of free agents, short term fixes for long term problems. I am glad the Redskins can't sign many free agents. You should really only have 2-4 free agents on your defense, 2-4 free agents on your offense. Everyone else should be drafted. There is something called "chemistry", in football that is important. Copy the good old Ravens. Or the 49ers, or the Packers, I'll settle for their success.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by donofriose

So basically we would have a defense pretty much made of free agents, short term fixes for long term problems. I am glad the Redskins can't sign many free agents. You should really only have 2-4 free agents on your defense, 2-4 free agents on your offense. Everyone else should be drafted. There is something called "chemistry", in football that is important. Copy the good old Ravens. Or the 49ers, or the Packers, I'll settle for their success.

I left out the fact that I'd also draft 2 CBs in the draft and see what Richard Crawford looks like in year 2 as well as this 'amazing CB' we got in Chase Minnifield.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I left out the fact that I'd also draft 2 CBs in the draft and see what Richard Crawford looks like in year 2 as well as this 'amazing CB' we got in Chase Minnifield.

So you want the same secondary that an expansion team has: a couple of FA's and draft choices who are thrown together without concern for knowledge of scheme or chemistry. Great.

I would add that Josh Wilson is better than you give him credit for.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Lotus

So you want the same secondary that an expansion team has: a couple of FA's and draft choices who are thrown together without concern for knowledge of scheme or chemistry. Great.

I would add that Josh Wilson is better than you give him credit for.

Don't worry Josh isn't going anywhere, but Josh Wilson gets pushed around a lot, which isn't good considering he's going against Dez Bryant and Hakeem Nicks twice a year. We need bigger more physical CBs; a secondary similar to Seattle's. Not these little fast guys.

Just a little nugget though about your other comment, The ravens secondary which they won the super bowl with was; Cary Williams (FA) Corey Graham (FA) Bernard Pollard (FA) and Ed Reed (drafted) They had just gotten Corey Graham that offseason so that was his first year playing; Cary Williams and Pollard came in last year. So there is some method to my madness of building a secondary. Like I say build through the draft, occasional FA. Just because I want these two FA's doesn't mean my team is fixed, I'm still going to draft guys to have them learn and develop behind them or incase the FAs don't work out.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Don't worry Josh isn't going anywhere, but Josh Wilson gets pushed around a lot, which isn't good considering he's going against Dez Bryant and Hakeem Nicks twice a year. We need bigger more physical CBs; a secondary similar to Seattle's. Not these little fast guys.

Just a little nugget though about your other comment, The ravens secondary which they won the super bowl with was; Cary Williams (FA) Corey Graham (FA) Bernard Pollard (FA) and Ed Reed (drafted) They had just gotten Corey Graham that offseason so that was his first year playing; Cary Williams and Pollard came in last year. So there is some method to my madness of building a secondary. Like I say build through the draft, occasional FA. Just because I want these two FA's doesn't mean my team is fixed, I'm still going to draft guys to have them learn and develop behind them or incase the FAs don't work out.

Not the same as you suggested. Your suggestion amounts to gutting the secondary and starting from scratch, not the Ravens method of adding pieces over a couple of years to go with a wiley old vet.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Just a little nugget though about your other comment, The ravens secondary which they won the super bowl with was; Cary Williams (FA) Corey Graham (FA) Bernard Pollard (FA) and Ed Reed (drafted) They had just gotten Corey Graham that offseason so that was his first year playing; Cary Williams and Pollard came in last year. So there is some method to my madness of building a secondary.

So the Redskins have Ed Reed in their secondary now? I'm sure if any team had Ed Reed they would be a lot better. By the way the ravens secondary was a mediocre secondary last year, the year before they were better but they had Webb (who they drafted) so I guess that is what the Skins should be shooting for. A secondary that ranked 16th or 17th, instead of building a great secondary like the...

Steelers... ranked 1st Keenan Lewis (drafted) Polamanu (drafted) Allen (drafted) and Clark (FA)... one free agent
or the Seahawks, who drafted their entire secondary.

If you want a mediocre secondary then you can get a bunch of free agents and hope they mesh. If you want a secondary like the Steelers or the Seahawks... you have to have them build chemistry together, mainly through the draft.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by donofriose

So the Redskins have Ed Reed in their secondary now? I'm sure if any team had Ed Reed they would be a lot better. By the way the ravens secondary was a mediocre secondary last year, the year before they were better but they had Webb (who they drafted) so I guess that is what the Skins should be shooting for. A secondary that ranked 16th or 17th, instead of building a great secondary like the...

Steelers... ranked 1st Keenan Lewis (drafted) Polamanu (drafted) Allen (drafted) and Clark (FA)... one free agent
or the Seahawks, who drafted their entire secondary.

If you want a mediocre secondary then you can get a bunch of free agents and hope they mesh. If you want a secondary like the Steelers or the Seahawks... you have to have them build chemistry together, mainly through the draft.

Never suggested we have ed reed I was going by the whole premise that you can't get FA's to fill in your secondary to be good. Houston did it a few years ago with Johnathan Joesph and Daniel Manning; their defense went from 32nd to top 5 I believe.

Steelers aren't a good example anymore because they've really gone down hill. Seahawks I'll agree with.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Never suggested we have ed reed I was going by the whole premise that you can't get FA's to fill in your secondary to be good. Houston did it a few years ago with Johnathan Joesph and Daniel Manning; their defense went from 32nd to top 5 I believe.

Steelers aren't a good example anymore because they've really gone down hill. Seahawks I'll agree with.

I think Big Ben being injured had a lot with what happened with Pitt last year, they will be back this year. Steelers had a superbowl defense. They just had Batch and a broken Big Ben playing quarterback for them for the rest of the year. Houston also got a new defensive coordinator that year if you remember.

[Evilgrin]

Wilson's statistics are better then Talib across the board, QB rating, comp percentage, first downs allowed, tds allowed. If Talib is so good, why did NE let him walk.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Wilson's statistics are better then Talib across the board, QB rating, comp percentage, first downs allowed, tds allowed. If Talib is so good, why did NE let him walk.

He's been on the market for 6 hours. It's not that they're letting him walk. He's listening to his offers.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

March 10, update. Lichtensteiger signs. Financial terms not yet available, so if someone hears something please post here, still waiting on terms for D Young too.

2013 Redskins Cap Room (Overage) At Start: ($2.7)

Moves Made to Date:
Released Jamaal Brown $0.2
Resigned Darrell Young ($1.0) temporary assumption
Resigned Logan Paulsen ($0.5)
Rob Jackson: ($0.8)
Kory Lichtensteiger: ($2.5) temporary assumption

2013 Redskins Cap Room (Overage) Current: ($7.3)

Roster Cuts or Restructures:
DeAngelo Hall $7.5
Santana Moss $3.7
Josh Wilson $3.2
Adam Carriker $2.2
Maximum Cap Space Created through Cuts or Restructures: $16.6

Priority Resignings/Replacements:
Fred Davis or similar TE: ($2.5)
Lorenzo Alexander: ($1.8)
Nick Sundberg or similar LS: ($0.3)
Sav Rocca or similar P: ($0.4)
Tyler Polumbus: ($1.1)
Cap Space Required for Resignings/Replacements ($6.1)

Rookie Pool Impact ($0.5)

Anticipated Cap Space Available for Free Agency: $2.7

Hey Schneed, any chance you'll get time to update this with any new numbers. I don't know how much info is out there, if any, but would be curious to see what Moss and Carriker's restructures did.

[CRedskinsRule]

+ this update:

Rich Campbell ‏@Rich_Campbell

As @Jason_OTC reported, records show Brandon Meriweather's contract is different today. Base salary is now $1.2M. It was $2.45M. #Redskins

[That Guy]

yeah, they're basically pushing all the money they need to make for 2013 into next year.