New Defensive Coordinator 2015

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

The ST unit has looked below average since Danny Smith and Lorenzo Alexander left..... plus we need our young guys like Akeem Davis to step up..

And I recall people saying losing Alexander was no big deal. How did that turn out? Paul and Alexander had some good chemistry on ST and would nail returners.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

And I recall people saying losing Alexander was no big deal. How did that turn out? Paul and Alexander had some good chemistry on ST and would nail returners.

That cap hit that we took in 2013 really hurt us....if not for that Lorenzo Alexander is still in a Redskin uniform....our special teams suffered....Niles Paul hasn't done jack since Danny Smith and Lorenzo Alexander left......Akeem Davis made a few jarring hits on ST in preseason......Davis has the potential to be the next big thing on special teams.

[diehardskin2982]

The special teams was an improvement from last year. The free agents that where selected to help on special teams got hurt. They need a change on defense, whether Haslett is at fault or not. He needs to go. Snyder has held onto people he like too long and I hope that he doesn't make that mistake again. I wonder if Kirk Olivadotti could be a defensive coordinator? He has worked with some of the best defensive minds in the NFL, including Ray Rhodes, Marvin Lewis, Gregg Williams, and Greg Blache. Also Jim for what that is worth. Has a pedigree and is a Redskins product.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

The special teams was an improvement from last year. The free agents that where selected to help on special teams got hurt. They need a change on defense, whether Haslett is at fault or not. He needs to go. Snyder has held onto people he like too long and I hope that he doesn't make that mistake again. I wonder if Kirk Olivadotti could be a defensive coordinator? He has worked with some of the best defensive minds in the NFL, including Ray Rhodes, Marvin Lewis, Gregg Williams, and Greg Blache. Also Jim for what that is worth. Has a pedigree and is a Redskins product.

They need to scrap the 3-4 defense....outside of Chris Neild who played NT at West Virginia the Redskins never had the correct personnel for it. Kerrigan and Orakpo are natural DEs. Barry Cofield played NT at Northwestern but has spent most of his career playing DT......Jarvis Jenkins is also a natural DT. Jackson Jeffcoat like Orakpo, played DE at Texas.....they need to return to the 4-3 since they have the right personnel for it......and keep Haslett and let him coordinate with this particular personnel in the 4-3.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

They need to scrap the 3-4 defense....outside of Chris Neild who played NT at West Virginia the Redskins never had the correct personnel for it. Kerrigan and Orakpo are natural DEs. Barry Cofield played NT at Northwestern but has spent most of his career playing DT......Jarvis Jenkins is also a natural DT. Jackson Jeffcoat like Orakpo, played DE at Texas.....they need to return to the 4-3 since they have the right personnel for it......and keep Haslett and let him coordinate with this particular personnel in the 4-3.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Lmao. That is the best .gif to describe a response to that post ever.

Definitely a head scratcher.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Lmao. That is the best .gif to describe a response to that post ever.

Definitely a head scratcher.

You or MattyK didn't understand what I was saying....in short Orakpo or Kerrigan can play OLBs in a 3-4, but they are better suited as 4-3 DEs with their hands in the dirt....not just Kerrigan and Orakpo, but most of the Redskins OLBs were DEs in college....Most of their defensive front were defensive tackles playing in a 4-3 originally.....thus since they really have mostly 4-3 personnel they should be running the 4-3.....got it?

[rocnrik]

I can remember when a lot of fans wanted to run Danny Smith out of town..the truth is simple..The skins will start winning again WHEN AND ONLY IF ALL 53 PLAYERS PUT FORTH THE EFFORT THAT TRENT WILLIAMS HAS DONE!!. we can bring in new coach..new whatever..What the redskins need is dedicated players..aint it funny when there back is up against the wall they respond and play good! this team easily could have won 8 games this year.. RGIII has played better since GRUDEN benched him and did not go along with his antics! I say give Gruden another off season ..a good draft and a hungry attitude could turn this thing around in a hurry!

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

I can remember when a lot of fans wanted to run Danny Smith out of town..the truth is simple..The skins will start winning again WHEN AND ONLY IF ALL 53 PLAYERS PUT FORTH THE EFFORT THAT TRENT WILLIAMS HAS DONE!!. we can bring in new coach..new whatever..What the redskins need is dedicated players..aint it funny when there back is up against the wall they respond and play good! this team easily could have won 8 games this year.. RGIII has played better since GRUDEN benched him and did not go along with his antics! I say give Gruden another off season ..a good draft and a hungry attitude could turn this thing around in a hurry!

I still don't miss Danny Smith. I know he's rolling in Pitty right now, but he downright sucked for us. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.


Right now, we have a good punter in Tress Way. A reliable kicker in Forbath. We haven't gotten any kicks or punts blocked this year, I don't believe... I could be wrong.

I feel like coaching isn't so much the issue as personnel. We have DJax, who we don't put back to return kicks (kind of understandable). We have Moss who we don't even use, who could be back there making himself useful (Not at all understandable). Instead we're using slow ass Roberts. That dude ain't gonna outrun anyone, as evident in the Giants game.

I'm not sure if things like that are a ST coach decision or a head coach decision, but shit like that could be better fleshed out.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I still don't miss Danny Smith. I know he's rolling in Pitty right now, but he downright sucked for us. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.

I feel like coaching isn't so much the issue as personnel. We have DJax, who we don't put back to return kicks (kind of understandable). We have Moss who we don't even use, who could be back there making himself useful (Not at all understandable). Instead we're using slow ass Roberts. That dude ain't gonna outrun anyone, as evident in the Giants game.

our STs here were much better with danny smith than without him. you realize that last year we weren't just the worst ST unit in the league, but the 2nd worst ST unit since they started tracking differentials in 2000 (the worst was the 2002 oakland ST unit).

why they don't use moss is simple, he's not that fast anymore, he doesn't play teams (ie, gunner on coverage) and he's been inactive most of our games. there's no point wasting an active spot on a guy that's not any better than roberts to maybe get 1 more ypr on a grand total of 3 punts in a game. roberts isn't that bad on returns (though he runs E/W too much for sure), though he's definitely not great either.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by That Guy

our STs here were much better with danny smith than without him. you realize that last year we weren't just the worst ST unit in the league, but the 2nd worst ST unit since they started tracking differentials in 2000 (the worst was the 2002 oakland ST unit).

why they don't use moss is simple, he's not that fast anymore, he doesn't play teams (ie, gunner on coverage) and he's been inactive most of our games. there's no point wasting an active spot on a guy that's not any better than roberts to maybe get 1 more ypr on a grand total of 3 punts in a game. roberts isn't that bad on returns (though he runs E/W too much for sure), though he's definitely not great either.

Last year we were also working with Keith Burns. Who everyone KNEW needed the boot. Last year was inexcusable.

This is Ben Kotwica's first year and like I said we're already doing worlds better in putting, kicking (none of that low chip shot shit) and blocking for both (no kicks or punts blocked). Discipline still needs to be worked on... Still too many penalties and I feel we could use some personnel upgrades.

We are still at the back end of the league in terms of our ST unit, but we aren't making historical records and when you consider how awful the team has been this year overall, and how awful the ST unit was last year, you HAVE to consider that an improvement.


In regards to Danny Smith's ST unit... It wasn't that great either. In 2012 the Skins ranked in the bottom third in both punting, kicking and returns. We were splitting the year with Forbath and Cundiff and if it wasn't for that Forbath pick up, we would have been royally screwed. That was also the year Sav Rocca started getting the weak leg and granted, a good punter is few and far between but we still hung around with him until after the 2013 season.

In 2011, we did great at kick coverage, but didn't have a consistent returner (and we still don't). We also were busy putting the coals to Gano who was busy missing kicks left and right (literally, right? )

So without me going back into Redskins lore, what I'm trying to say is. Our special teams has never been what could be considered... Hearty, well-rounded, and consistently good. At some points we've been abysmal and at other points we've been, "Okay". But we've never had a full on, consistent and competent ST unit. The last time I remember us having one was with Lorenzo Alexander but that was because he was practically THE ST unit by himself.

[MTK]

Smith and Kotwica are both quality coordinators. Problem under Shanny was we really didn't commit much to bringing in those mid to late round picks that can at least giving you something on teams. Losing Alexander was big but he wanted somewhere where he could play LB and Arizona gave him that opportunity.

[diehardskin2982]

Haslett puts his players out of position with some of his schemes. It reminds me of when G.Williams would line up the safeties 25+ yards deep. Unless it was Sean Taylor, the safeties where often out of position. But his schemes are way worst. Also, his problem is that he refuses to adjust the scheme at half time. The glaring holes in the middle of the field with scheme and consistent lack of effort to cover a TE warrants Haz's termination. Also the coaches have not been able to teach and improve the talent that was drafted.

The scouts and front office are not off the hook either, we could of drafted Chris Borland or signed UDFA Christian Jones. These dudes proved it on the field and we passed on them because of measurables. They focus too much on the good looking stud and not proven football players.

[Dirtbag59]

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[diehardskin2982]

I think Haslett planned to run aspects of the Seattle styled defense with three rush linebacker set, however he didn't know what he was doing, it didn't work.