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Old 12-19-2016, 02:10 AM   #106
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That is a good idea! !!! He is built more like a safety.
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Been begging for it for a few weeks now.

To me that's the best way of getting your best 11 players on the field.

One thing I don't get: how complicated would it be to modify the playbook to have one guy playing SS (Cravens) and one guy playing FS (Blackmon/Ihenacho) ?
I mean if now they have to be able to play both, maybe Cravens could stick to SS and just switch sides with the other safety when the formation would dictate that he plays FS ?
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That is a good idea! !!! He is built more like a safety.
Except he has the speed of a LB - and not a particularly fast LB - and, in the defense, that could be critical.

Since Barry doesn't assign a SS v. a FS, Cravens could end up covering the deep half of the field. While I am sure his study habits will improve his anticipation, you simply can't teach speed.

He really needs a creative DC to move him around and find a defense that maximizes his potential. Alternatively, the Skins need to drop the non-designation and have their safeties playing traditional roles so that Cravens can develop as a true SS. To do so, however, would significantly alter the way the Skins play defense.
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Except he has the speed of a LB - and not a particularly fast LB - and, in the defense, that could be critical.

Since Barry doesn't assign a SS v. a FS, Cravens could end up covering the deep half of the field. While I am sure his study habits will improve his anticipation, you simply can't teach speed.

He really needs a creative DC to move him around and find a defense that maximizes his potential. Alternatively, the Skins need to drop the non-designation and have their safeties playing traditional roles so that Cravens can develop as a true SS. To do so, however, would significantly alter the way the Skins play defense.
Could you develop how complicated it would be? I feel like they'd just have to switch sides like normal safeties do...
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Except he has the speed of a LB - and not a particularly fast LB - and, in the defense, that could be critical.

Since Barry doesn't assign a SS v. a FS, Cravens could end up covering the deep half of the field. While I am sure his study habits will improve his anticipation, you simply can't teach speed.

He really needs a creative DC to move him around and find a defense that maximizes his potential. Alternatively, the Skins need to drop the non-designation and have their safeties playing traditional roles so that Cravens can develop as a true SS. To do so, however, would significantly alter the way the Skins play defense.
News flash: Jay Gruden thinks S'ua Cravens might make a good safety!

In other news, Jay Gruden and Joe Barry were each shown photos of the U.S. Capitol Building and the Washington Monument and both of them correctly identified the famous landmarks.


Cravens is a playmaker. He needs to be on the field and he fits as an in the box SS. So change the f'n coverages a little! If Barry can't figure it out, change the DC, too.

p.s. Draft or sign a true FS with speed and range while you're at it.
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... Cravens is a playmaker. He needs to be on the field and he fits as an in the box SS. So change the f'n coverages a little! If Barry can't figure it out, change the DC, too.

p.s. Draft or sign a true FS with speed and range while you're at it.
This.

As to the bolded part, the Skins may do the latter; I have no confidence Barry will do the former.
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The Skins control their own destiny.

We're doomed. <sigh>
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Old 12-19-2016, 11:37 AM   #113
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Our team better come out pumped to play this game. If they come out flat (again) and have to play catch-up, we may not win. We need to show intensity throughout the entire game for once.
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Old 12-19-2016, 11:49 AM   #114
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News flash: Jay Gruden thinks S'ua Cravens might make a good safety!

In other news, Jay Gruden and Joe Barry were each shown photos of the U.S. Capitol Building and the Washington Monument and both of them correctly identified the famous landmarks.


Cravens is a playmaker. He needs to be on the field and he fits as an in the box SS. So change the f'n coverages a little! If Barry can't figure it out, change the DC, too.

p.s. Draft or sign a true FS with speed and range while you're at it.
This is why Barry isn't a good DC IMO. He can't figure out what to do with probably our best athlete on defense. I don't get it, it ain't that effing hard.
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People are talking about Cravens forty time (4.65?) like he's a damn offensive lineman. It's not THAT bad if he's playing in the box mostly.

Duke Ihenacho - 4.51
Donte Whitner - 4.4
Bashaud Breeland - 4.62
Will Blackmon - 4.46

Personally, I don't feel like speed is the issue at safety. It's being out of place...
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The Skins control their own destiny.



We're doomed. <sigh>


Yes but we control our own doom too.
Tonight is huge. I do not see us losing to Chicago, and if it comes down to a home game against the Giants to get in I do not see us losing there either.
Tonight scares me because it is not do or die yet.
Last few times into the playoffs we had to rattle off four or five in a row. Three is small potatoes. I trust this team. Tonight freaks me out BUT we win big.
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Did I read correctly that it's possible NY would be resting their starters that day?
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Did I read correctly that it's possible NY would be resting their starters that day?
Yes. If they have the 5th spot clinched and aren't in contention for the Division Championship, they may rest some of their players. To win the Division, the Giants need to win both of their remaining games (@ Philly, @ Skins) and Dallas needs to lose both its two remaining games (Lions, @ Philly).

For the last game, both Dallas v. Philly and our game with the Giants are scheduled for 1/1/017 at 1:00 so, for NYG to be locked into the 5th spot (and, thus, be resting starters in our game), we need Dallas to beat the Lions or NYG to lose to Philly.

I am damn sick of hoping the Cowgirls win to improve our shot at the playoffs so I really want Philly to beat the Giants. I HATE Philly and love seeing them mired in blechiness so this is only slightly more palatable than rooting for the Cowboys - but since a NFC East rival has to win the game, might as well be the one that will likely work best for us.

Or ... we could just kick the Giants ass no matter who they put on the field.
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News flash: Jay Gruden thinks S'ua Cravens might make a good safety!

In other news, Jay Gruden and Joe Barry were each shown photos of the U.S. Capitol Building and the Washington Monument and both of them correctly identified the famous landmarks.


Cravens is a playmaker. He needs to be on the field and he fits as an in the box SS. So change the f'n coverages a little! If Barry can't figure it out, change the DC, too.

p.s. Draft or sign a true FS with speed and range while you're at it.
You know what, I've been of those defending Barry, I don't think his playcalling is that bad, and that's an area where he's improved since the beginning of the season.

But.

The Cravens case is driving me crazy.
Cooley said weeks ago on his show Cravens should be playing SS. Have your best 11 players on the field.
He knows the position and as a LB he knows the coverage so he could learn the playbook quickly.
I really don't see how hard it is to go from a "both safeties can play both positions" situation to a normal "switching sides" system.

To me that's one of the easy things Barry could do to optimise his defense with the personnel he has.

I know part of this decision is on Gruden, but if Barry wanted it I'm sure it could've been done weeks ago.
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Wohoooo!!

CRed scored some last minute tix and we is going to the game!!!!

[Skins are doomed].
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