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Old 11-05-2021, 05:03 PM   #106
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Re: WFT vs. the bye week thread

I'm upset just like every fan, but I don't get the whole "I am 100% SURE that this team is terrible no matter what and nothing is going to change my mind and I know I'm right."

Maybe I have this approach since I lived through the Spurrier and Zorn years, which IMO where 1000% times worst than anything that has happened recently. And for anyone that wasn't around there, trust me, we were the laughing stock of the league then. To clarify, I mean that in terms of football ops, and not the off the field shit show.
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Re: WFT vs. the bye week thread

I should have said the order is in no particular order. Just tossing them out there.
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Old 11-05-2021, 05:08 PM   #108
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I'm upset just like every fan, but I don't get the whole "I am 100% SURE that this team is terrible no matter what and nothing is going to change my mind and I know I'm right."

Maybe I have this approach since I lived through the Spurrier and Zorn years, which IMO where 1000% times worst than anything that has happened recently. And for anyone that wasn't around there, trust me, we were the laughing stock of the league then. To clarify, I mean that in terms of football ops, and not the off the field shit show.
Yeah and just to add doing a rebuild isn't easy, Ron has just about turned this entire roster over now. There are going to be bumps along the way. Improvement in terms of wins isn't going to show in a nice linear fashion.

That said we can't be sitting at 2-6 again at this point next year. This upcoming offseason is huge.
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Old 11-05-2021, 05:09 PM   #109
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Maybe we can take a deeper dive into why we are 2-6

1. This was a sub .500 team last year and definitely wasn't ready to face a first place schedule this year.
2. The QB issue.
3. Free agent moves like Jackson and Samuel haven't worked out so far.
4. The QB issue.
5. Not getting enough out of this year's draft class.
6. The defense has been a big disappointment. Or maybe they simply weren't as good as we thought they were last year. Still a lot of work to do with the back 7.
Good list, I would add:

7. Injuries in the offense (Fitz, Logan, Gibson, etc., etc.).
8. Brutal schedule (although I don't put much stock into this)
9. The QB issue
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Maybe we can take a deeper dive into why we are 2-6

1. This was a sub .500 team last year and definitely wasn't ready to face a first place schedule this year.
2. The QB issue.
3. Free agent moves like Jackson and Samuel haven't worked out so far.
4. The QB issue.
5. Not getting enough out of this year's draft class.
6. The defense has been a big disappointment. Or maybe they simply weren't as good as we thought they were last year. Still a lot of work to do with the back 7.

Totally agree. I almost wanna put the kicker debacle on there too. I mean to go into the year with Hopkins i knew was a mistake and now as a result we have Blewitt. Other than 1 and maybe 7 if in fact they just weren’t that good who is to blame for 3, and 5? 2 wasn’t anyones fault because Fitz got hurt. That move will probably never be able to be judged good or bad. I was in favor of it. Maybe there were other avenues like trading up for Jones?

But the 3 and 5 are looking like poor decisions. Not trying to blame Rivera cus im not sure how much he had to do with them. Thought he had total autonomy though.
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I'm upset just like every fan, but I don't get the whole "I am 100% SURE that this team is terrible no matter what and nothing is going to change my mind and I know I'm right.".
It is just being real. I mean every person on here even me, the great hater, wants them to win.

There is one thing that can change my mind. Winning. I do not see this team winning more than 5 games. That is bad. There aint no way around it. For 30 years I drank the kool aid and fooled myself into believing that things would be different. Right up until this year. Our D was great and got better. Nope.
TH and Fitz have to be better than Haskins and Alex. Nope.
I realize the schedule is tougher but we barely beat Atlanta. We got incredibly lucky against the Giants. We lost to Denver.
It is what it is Ruh. I’m not sure what fooling myself will do for the team. Not trying to be Debbie Downer and if i am I apologize but there are no participation trophies in the NFL. You win we good. You lose we aint. Hope they come outta the bye and rattle off 8 straight wins. With every ounce of my being. For 42 years - since i was 8 - this team meant the world to me. If they lost my week was fucking over. If they won nothing could bother me. But Snyder shit all over that. I ultimately blame him for everything. I know RR is up against it. I know everyone who coaches here or plays here is up against it. I would be happy just being competitive against good teams and taking care of business against bad ones. That would give me hope for the future and nothing would make me happier than donating to Mattys charity of choice.
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Old 11-05-2021, 08:54 PM   #112
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I have never been a Rivera fan. When he came to WFT and brought the Carolina staff, all I saw was the last 3 or 4 years in Carolina. Lousy team, lousy record and lousy coaching staff. I sincerely believe that this team will be in the dumpster as long as Rivera is here. I also believe that it will be in the dumpster as long as Snyder is owner but he is never going to sell. Snyder has picked historically bad coaches every time. Maybe Snyder will get lucky and hire a winning coach. Probably not, but hopeful.
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Old 11-07-2021, 11:37 AM   #113
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It’s our bye week and we will still lose lol
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Old 11-07-2021, 05:42 PM   #114
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It’s our bye week and we will still lose lol
Dallas losing makes it a win in my books. If Philly gets blown out that will be terrific.

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Re: WFT vs. the bye week thread

Having to get crushed by Tampa after a bye is not cool. I petition the league to flip our games. Let's play Carolina next Sunday.
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Old 11-07-2021, 06:45 PM   #116
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Having to get crushed by Tampa after a bye is not cool. I petition the league to flip our games. Let's play Carolina next Sunday.
Crushed by Tampa or humiliated by Carolina, the order doesn't really matter.

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Crushed by Tampa or humiliated by Carolina, the order doesn't really matter.

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That's true. But we have a 0% chance of beating Tampa. We have like a 10% chance of beating Carolina.
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Good read

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Old 11-08-2021, 11:58 AM   #119
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It’s our bye week and we will still lose lol
We actually won...Jags, Giants, and Dolphins all won...meaning a better potential draft pick for us!
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We actually won...Jags, Giants, and Dolphins all won...meaning a better potential draft pick for us!
Add Dallas and Philly losing, and it was an enjoyable weekend to see the scores.

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