2011 NFL Draft

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Sigh I know. Every year at this time though I'm reminded of how great Kiper is. I'm talking about off-camera. He's probably my favorite NFL insider at work, as far as the type of guy he is. If every insider was like him, we'd all work for free (well not exactly, but we'd love the work)

I like watching Kiper, draft wouldnt be the same without him. SS, any rivalry between him and McShay?

[SmootSmack]

Like a real rivalry? No, they get along fine. I really don't know anyone who can't and doesn't get along with Kiper. Some of the insiders are difficult to deal with, Kiper's easy

[Hog1]

MEL IS one the few opinions I actually put any stock in.........

[Ruhskins]

I think that Mel Kiper's hair is actually the brains behind the man, Mel Kiper the man is just a vehicle for the hair. LOL.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I like watching Kiper, draft wouldnt be the same without him. SS, any rivalry between him and McShay?

I've been listening to the First Draft Podcast for the past month and the "rivalary" that seemed to be there two or three years ago, assuming there was any animosity in the first place, seems to be gone. In fact, if anything they seem to have developed a lot of chemistry since McShay first appeared on the scene.

It would be great though if the ESPN guys gave their actual draft guys a little bit more air time this year because last years ESPN draft coverage they had way to many people on set, and eventually it just kept feeling like no one had time to complete a sentence. Which is amazing considering how much down time you get during an even like the NFL Draft.

It might just start with replacing Berman, because I think part of the reason I liked NFLN's coverage last year came from the way Eisen directed the conversation. I'll still check in on the ESPN coverage and see if it's back to where it was in 2008 but for the most part I expect most of the time I'll be watching things unfold on NFLN.

[SmootSmack]

http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/201...raft-coverage/

[SmootSmack]

Kiper is in my top 5 favorite on-air ESPN personalities off the air

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/201...raft-coverage/

Okay, now I remember a little more about why Kiper and McShay got less air time last year. You'd start off with the pick and Berman would usually go straight to Jackson, then Kiper would go off for a couple of seconds during the highlight, Young would throw in a word or two, then you had to get to Gruden, then you bring in Schefter, then Mort gives his take and vice versa, then Kobler has to interview the prospect and then you go to Wingo in the studio with Edwards and Bruschi. And I think Dilfer's in there some where. At some point they'll go to one of the local on site reporters, usually Sal Pal. Then back to Mort for more inside information on possible trades.

So much talent at ESPN, but I just don't think theres enough air time to properly show case it, even with an event that drags on like the draft.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think that Mel Kiper's hair is actually the brains behind the man, Mel Kiper the man is just a vehicle for the hair. LOL.

LMAO, I was thinking the same, great minds think alike.

[SBXVII]

KI Skins Fan,

I know I mentioned DL but I was told a pass rushing LB. Funny to me it's LB or DE who is a hybrid LB. So because of that I simply said DL but that also left open NT.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Like a real rivalry? No, they get along fine. I really don't know anyone who can't and doesn't get along with Kiper. Some of the insiders are difficult to deal with, Kiper's easy

oh so you hate schefter huh? loud and clear buddy

[celts32]

I hope the changes to the draft coverage espn is planning make a difference because for the past 10 years thier coverage has gotten progressively worse. There has been less Kiper every year and more talking head players who do no homework. The Bristol setup is awful...fans waited 4 months for the draft...they dont want to watch an episode of NFL Live during the draft. And the worst part of all is when they go into thier hell with the draft thats going on live mode...instead lets interview everyone under the fkn sun while one pick after another flies by! Last year they did that for most of the Friday coverage! I swear if NFL network had Kiper then ESPN would lose me for good. I love Mayock but draft day is not the same for me without Mel.

Sorry for the ESPN bashing Smoot...I know none of this is your fault. Hopefully they realized how bad thier coverage has gotten and the changes they are planning do the trick.

[celts32]

Also has the NFL realized how stupid their friday start time last year was? Goodell talked about getting the draft in primetime yet they started round 2 right in the middle of the Friday rush hour! 7:30 or 8 is primetime not 6PM! Its bad enough they ruined the Saturday draft holiday for the die hards who helped make the draft an event but the start times are utterly rediculous. And thank god i don't live on the west coast...instead of saturday morning they get 3 and 4 PM on weekdays. Nice job Roger...

[skinsfaninok]

I agree, I'm not a big fan on the weekday draft crap..

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

KI Skins Fan,

I know I mentioned DL but I was told a pass rushing LB. Funny to me it's LB or DE who is a hybrid LB. So because of that I simply said DL but that also left open NT.

I see. Upon further review, I think I was wrong anyway in thinking that they would trade down farther if they wanted a DL (or an OLB). For one thing, they may not have found another team with a pick in the range they would want to move to that is open to trading with them. Secondly, they may not think that the player or players they are interested in would last much longer than #14.

An extra pick in the third round would be a beautiful thing if the Skins were to pick winners in round one and round three after trading down.