It's not Brunell's fault!

SmootSmack · 10-23-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

you know, the shotgun worked a lot better for brunell... why did that disappear so completely? and where's the audibles that worked so well last year?

Like I said...bring back Bill Musgrave!!!

MTK · 10-23-2006, 11:54 AM

Aikman mentioned that perhaps the loss of Musgrave has hurt Brunell.

illdefined · 10-23-2006, 12:11 PM

and here we are, without that crucial "turning point". right where we were last year before the Dallas game.

what made that game such a "turning point" was people learned to respect Moss and not just Portis. it made defenses stretch vertically. it opened up our entire offense, and gave the team hope it could always come close to winning. no longer.

everyone thought Patten wasn't a good number 2 reciever, but now its been revealed that number 2 barely gets looked at by Brunell, no matter who's playing.

MTK · 10-23-2006, 01:25 PM

I really wonder where we would be if the D was playing well. Don't get me wrong the offense has plenty of room for improvement, but the defense has been horrible.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-23-2006, 01:26 PM

I'd put us more at like 4-3. I think we beat the Vikings and Titans with a somewhat decent defense.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-23-2006, 01:53 PM

I like to look at the whole package. There are guys who throw for a bazillion yards, but have a horrible completion percentage or throw almost as many picks. Seriously, I can only think of 4-5 starting QBs that we'd be worse off having.

Eriwar · 10-23-2006, 02:55 PM

Bottom line if Gibbs starts MB again we know for sure it’s not a football decision. Its painfully obvious MB is a washed up QB. What he provides to this team is not enough. Gibbs pulled PR the first opportunity he had. If he was so conscious of QB play when he pulled PR where did that consciousness go when MB throws 5 yard passes on 3rd and 12's!!!!!!!! Where is that football hall of fame consciousness when MB rolls out to his left and throws the ball out of bounds? How can you maintain the respect of the team if he keeps that guy as his starter? I can’t believe I am saying this but my respect for him as a football coach is dwindling having an embarrassment for a QB as his starter. What does he see when MB plays? Does he see a good QB or his boy who shares the same faith Gibbs he has (I share the same faith Jesus Christ is Lord and my Savior) who saved his life? I just can’t imagine Bill Parcels keeping MB playing the way he does!!! Why is Todd Collins on this team? He might make a good coach one day but he is not a baller. Put Jason Campbell in and build something out of that. Our defense has no hope; your starting QB does not have the physical tools to make it happen. The bottom line is you’re to comfortable Coach and it shows by the team you put out there. Ask yourself a question if Jack Kent Cook was owner and it was 1980 would you have MB as your starter. Or would you make the hard choices and bench him.

NYCSkin · 10-23-2006, 02:59 PM

I'll put it on the D right now, by a hair over Brunell. The Dallas game will tell us a lot about whom to blame between these two though. The D will have 6 starters healthy and hopefully ready to play (Griffin, Salavea, Marshall, Washington, Springs, and Rogers) with two weeks to prepare for a Dallas team that will be coming here after traveling to Carolina.

dmek25 · 10-23-2006, 03:27 PM

maybe thats the reason the guy cant get a head coaching job. not ready to accept any responsibility for anything. i guess that 700 page playbook is second only to the bible

redsk1 · 10-23-2006, 03:43 PM

Last time i checked Saunders system worked pretty good other places. The other places had the right qb though.

0421kidwell · 10-23-2006, 04:55 PM

The Hell It's Not Screw Brunell And Gibbs Old People Don't Win Superbowl's Especailly At The Qb Position, Unless Your Name In Bret Favre And Mark Is Not Favre

0421kidwell · 10-23-2006, 04:56 PM

Brunell Cannot Throw The Ball More Than 10 Yards!!! Dallas Will Destroy Us!!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-23-2006, 05:30 PM

To put some perspective on things, our offense scored a TOTAL of 37 points against the Giants, Cowboys, Colts, and Vikings. That's about 9 points per game. ANYONE who thinks that an offense that scores 9 points per game is good is on some ridiculously good crack.

GTripp0012 · 10-23-2006, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

To put some perspective on things, our offense scored a TOTAL of 37 points against the Giants, Cowboys, Colts, and Vikings. That's about 9 points per game. ANYONE who thinks that an offense that scores 9 points per game is good is on some ridiculously good crack.

It's pretty shitty. But that doesn't mean the offense isn't efficient. The inablity to score points is a seperate problem. Either the kickers aren't making kicks (they've been inconsistent), we aren't getting TDs in the red zone (i don't have the stats on this), we consistently have terrible field position (again, don't know), or you have a ridiculously low TOP because the defense can never get off the field on third down (bingo!).

Beemnseven · 10-23-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

To put some perspective on things, our offense scored a TOTAL of 37 points against the Giants, Cowboys, Colts, and Vikings. That's about 9 points per game. ANYONE who thinks that an offense that scores 9 points per game is good is on some ridiculously good crack.

Against the NFC East, we've been outscored 46-13, and have not scored an offensive touchdown.

How's that for efficiency?

10-23-2006, 11:54 AM	#2
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10-23-2006, 01:25 PM	#4
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,049	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! I really wonder where we would be if the D was playing well. Don't get me wrong the offense has plenty of room for improvement, but the defense has been horrible. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-23-2006, 01:26 PM	#5
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! I'd put us more at like 4-3. I think we beat the Vikings and Titans with a somewhat decent defense. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-23-2006, 01:53 PM	#6
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! I like to look at the whole package. There are guys who throw for a bazillion yards, but have a horrible completion percentage or throw almost as many picks. Seriously, I can only think of 4-5 starting QBs that we'd be worse off having. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-23-2006, 02:55 PM	#7
Eriwar No new threads for you Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 60	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! Bottom line if Gibbs starts MB again we know for sure it’s not a football decision. Its painfully obvious MB is a washed up QB. What he provides to this team is not enough. Gibbs pulled PR the first opportunity he had. If he was so conscious of QB play when he pulled PR where did that consciousness go when MB throws 5 yard passes on 3rd and 12's!!!!!!!! Where is that football hall of fame consciousness when MB rolls out to his left and throws the ball out of bounds? How can you maintain the respect of the team if he keeps that guy as his starter? I can’t believe I am saying this but my respect for him as a football coach is dwindling having an embarrassment for a QB as his starter. What does he see when MB plays? Does he see a good QB or his boy who shares the same faith Gibbs he has (I share the same faith Jesus Christ is Lord and my Savior) who saved his life? I just can’t imagine Bill Parcels keeping MB playing the way he does!!! Why is Todd Collins on this team? He might make a good coach one day but he is not a baller. Put Jason Campbell in and build something out of that. Our defense has no hope; your starting QB does not have the physical tools to make it happen. The bottom line is you’re to comfortable Coach and it shows by the team you put out there. Ask yourself a question if Jack Kent Cook was owner and it was 1980 would you have MB as your starter. Or would you make the hard choices and bench him.

10-23-2006, 02:59 PM	#8
NYCSkin Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 54 Posts: 513	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! I'll put it on the D right now, by a hair over Brunell. The Dallas game will tell us a lot about whom to blame between these two though. The D will have 6 starters healthy and hopefully ready to play (Griffin, Salavea, Marshall, Washington, Springs, and Rogers) with two weeks to prepare for a Dallas team that will be coming here after traveling to Carolina.

10-23-2006, 03:27 PM	#9
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! maybe thats the reason the guy cant get a head coaching job. not ready to accept any responsibility for anything. i guess that 700 page playbook is second only to the bible __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

10-23-2006, 03:43 PM	#10
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10-23-2006, 04:55 PM	#11
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10-23-2006, 04:56 PM	#12
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10-23-2006, 05:30 PM	#13
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: It's not Brunell's fault! To put some perspective on things, our offense scored a TOTAL of 37 points against the Giants, Cowboys, Colts, and Vikings. That's about 9 points per game. ANYONE who thinks that an offense that scores 9 points per game is good is on some ridiculously good crack.

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