Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Simple question, who would you take straight up?

Betts (2nd string RB) or Vilma (starting MLB and one of the best at his position)?

Well I think Betts would start in alot of places in the league....
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but anyoen who says Betts over Vilma is out of their minds.

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

I just hate giving up guys that are loyal...we have a bad track record for this stuff working out

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I think around here, no one doubts Vilma's abilities. What we're doubting is the quality of the trade (should it even happen).

[That Guy]

leon isn't that great. the jets O line was better than expected last year, and it's only going to get better, which would let lesser talent at RB get by (See chester taylor and the vikes), but a good runner could really help them.

vilma is a GREAT player, but without DTs to protect him, his value to the defence would be greatly diminished. and depending on griffin to stay healthy and golston to turn into a superstud overnight is just betting too much on ifs.

[That Guy]

the jenkins thing was purely speculative to begin with. it's not happening, unless the skins aren't going to try for a FA corner this offseason.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Let me say that I am not trying to piss on our O-line. First of all, I think we have a top 5 line.

That being said, we don't have dock at the moment. To say that Jansen is a potential pro-bowler is more than wishful thinking. To honestly believe that our line is better than Indianapolis' at this point in time is beyond blind faith. At this present time we have one legitamate pro-bowler. Thomas is a candidate but he is not the same player that he was in '05.

[Jayman]

I could see a three-way trade!! The Skins send Betts and Arch. to the Bears. The Bears send T. Jones to the Jets, and the Jets send the Skins Villma.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Jayman

I could see a three-way trade!! The Skins send Betts and Arch. to the Bears. The Bears send T. Jones to the Jets, and the Jets send the Skins Villma.

Benson and Betts seem pretty similar to me. Why would the Jets dump Vilma for T. Jones who may be released at some point (since Benson was a #4 pick)?

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

Well i wouldnt make that deal unless extra picks were involved. But hey were talking about the skins so we probably throw our other two picks in too to get Ramsey back lol.

[dmek25]

not that this matters, but i was talking to a bunch of football fans at work. all of them say that they would do this trade in a heartbeat, if they are the skins. i tend to agree. betts is a backup that fumbles too much for my liking. and running back isn't one of our weaknesses. and Vilma is a proven MIDDLE linebacker. not someone us fans are trying to convert

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by dmek25

not that this matters, but i was talking to a bunch of football fans at work. all of them say that they would do this trade in a heartbeat, if they are the skins. i tend to agree. betts is a backup that fumbles too much for my liking. and running back isn't one of our weaknesses. and Vilma is a proven MIDDLE linebacker. not someone us fans are trying to convert

I gotta agree, I think Ladell Betts is a very replacable football player and Vilma is a monster. I don't know, however, if I'd be willing to move down 19 picks in the first round in order to swap Vilma and Betts without picking up a later pick. This trade would be big for the Skins and they could go out and get another backup running back. Finally, I think Betts is probably gonna find his way back among the injured this season because he normally does, last year was an exception, rather than the norm for Ladell Betts. I think moving him to the Jets would be good for the Skins because they could pick up a need.

Also, I think it would be a decent gesture to allow Betts to go somewhere else and compete to be a #1 back, although that really shouldn't come into play when making the decision.

[MTK]

Two categories that offensive lines are judged on are rushing yards and sacks given up.

Just for the sake of throwing this out there the Skins were 4th in the NFL in rushing yards this year, the Colts were 18th. The Skins were 3rd in the NFL in sacks given up with 20, the Colts were #1 in the league and gave up 15.

[That Guy]

betts for vilma straight up is a steal. but moving out of that #6 pick for a #25 gaurantees you're DL is going to be awful all of next year. if we got a monster DL guy instead, #25 overall is a great spot for a top tier MLB. linebackers are easier to get in the 2nd round. it's hard to find elite QBs/LTs/DEs/DTs outside the top 10-16 picks.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

The Jets just released Kevan Barlow which makes them even more determined to get a running back and are said to like betts will they be willing to add a extra draft pick to the trade now

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

The Jets just released Kevan Barlow which makes them even more determined to get a running back and are said to like betts will they be willing to add a extra draft pick to the trade now

Maybe. Hey, if they come running to us with a reasonable deal involving Vilma and Betts, we SHOULD do it. But we need to make it clear that we aren't shopping Betts.

Barlow sucks anyway, I don't think this changes the complexity of the deal any.