Let's Discuss the 2007 Schedule

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If getting big plays was as easy as throwing it downfield, every team would do it every play.

A lot of the examples you provide seem to support my argument. One thing that I'm not saying is that JC's relatively low INT total is reflected in his propensity to force the ball down the field.

You have to justify his 51% completion through his first 5 starts somehow. This is a 2nd year QB who projects to be very good in the NFL. He should NOT be putting up Vick like stats in his 2nd year in the league. When I compare this with my observations, it seems like Campbell was taking the deep ball when it wasn't there. Sometimes, you get a mismatch deep, with Moss 1 v 1 on a safety and you take it. It just seemed like Campbell wasn't pickin his spots well. Trying to hit Randle El out of the slot on a very deep post pattern between two safeties is not a smart play. This resulted in a lot of incompletions, and a lot of unsuccessful drives.

I'm not saying you should ever pass up an open receiver streaking down the sideline because you might miss it. I'm saying that if you don't have a mismatch, don't force the ball down the field, because incomplete may very well be the best reasonable outcome. Considering that even in an efficient offense, 40% of dropbacks will result in incomplete passes, it seems like throwing a low pct. pass when there are more open options underneath is a bad idea, and will kill a drive more often than not.

The bottom line is you want to score touchdowns. Incompletions do not help you score touchdowns. Completions do. You have to take what the defense gives you. Campbell will learn this sooner as opposed to later.

Nobody said getting big plays was easy casue it's not. But like I said, why would our offense, with new wr's that can all run, lead the league in sideline passes the 1st 9 weeks? Sorry but that's on the Qb, and for that matter the coaching staff too. Even Madden and Aikmen pointed out our problems at QB. Sorry but I think Troy Aikman and John Madden know more about NFL quarterbacking than you or I.

I would justify the 51% to alot of things.

1. Playing in 6 different offenses in 6 years.
2. A lack of work with the 1st team wr's for the first 1 1/2 years.
3. No real game experience since 2004.
4. Needs to work on his mechanics
5. He's a young QB.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Nobody said getting big plays was easy casue it's not. But like I said, why would our offense, with new wr's that can all run, lead the league in sideline passes the 1st 9 weeks? Sorry but that's on the Qb, and for that matter the coaching staff too. Even Madden and Aikmen pointed out our problems at QB. Sorry but I think Troy Aikman and John Madden know more about NFL quarterbacking than you or I.

I would justify the 51% to alot of things.

1. Playing in 6 different offenses in 6 years.
2. A lack of work with the 1st team wr's for the first 1 1/2 years.
3. No real game experience since 2004.
4. Needs to work on his mechanics
5. He's a young QB.

Do you know that we led the league in sideline passes, or are you just speculating that we did? Either way, is that a good or bad thing? What is it's significance?

Look, Madden and Aikman are probably the elite of their class (of color analysists), but both probably don't get to watch the Redskins play more than once or twice a year. We, as fans of the team, should be far more knowledgable about our own players because we follow the team religiously. I wouldn't put too much stock into the opinion of a member of the television media, even if that person happens to be one of the better analysts. It's pretty outlandish for anyone to make a statement concerning the effectiveness of a single player who they do not get to see often without at least consulting statistics to see if their claim can ever remotely be justified. Having a big name doesn't excuse idiocy.

As far as those 5 reasons you gave, I would agree that they all contribute to Campbell's in experience and I believe that Campbell's inexperience is the problem. We all know that Campbell is not even close to his prime yet, and that we can expect a steady improvement from him until then.

I'm just saying that it doesn't take an experienced player to complete more than 51% of his passes. He was making A LOT of mistakes concerning where to go with the football, and put simply wasn't completing passes during his first 5 starts. I can assure you he would have completed more passes and moved the ball/sustained drives better had he not tried to take the most difficult route option every other play, and setting himself up for failure.

In the last two games, he seemed to stop forcing the ball downfield, took what the defense gave him, and improved his completion % considerably. It certainly isn't his fault that we didn't win those games.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Do you know that we led the league in sideline passes, or are you just speculating that we did? Either way, is that a good or bad thing? What is it's significance?

Look, Madden and Aikman are probably the elite of their class (of color analysists), but both probably don't get to watch the Redskins play more than once or twice a year. We, as fans of the team, should be far more knowledgable about our own players because we follow the team religiously. I wouldn't put too much stock into the opinion of a member of the television media, even if that person happens to be one of the better analysts. It's pretty outlandish for anyone to make a statement concerning the effectiveness of a single player who they do not get to see often without at least consulting statistics to see if their claim can ever remotely be justified. Having a big name doesn't excuse idiocy.

As far as those 5 reasons you gave, I would agree that they all contribute to Campbell's in experience and I believe that Campbell's inexperience is the problem. We all know that Campbell is not even close to his prime yet, and that we can expect a steady improvement from him until then.

I'm just saying that it doesn't take an experienced player to complete more than 51% of his passes. He was making A LOT of mistakes concerning where to go with the football, and put simply wasn't completing passes during his first 5 starts. I can assure you he would have completed more passes and moved the ball/sustained drives better had he not tried to take the most difficult route option every other play, and setting himself up for failure.

In the last two games, he seemed to stop forcing the ball downfield, took what the defense gave him, and improved his completion % considerably. It certainly isn't his fault that we didn't win those games.

I would say it's a bad thing in our situation. I believe Madden or Aikman pointed this stat out during one of the games that we were really struggling in the passing game. Aikman did a few of our games so that means they break down film on us and so forth. And I remember Aikman making several comments about our offense needing to back the defense off of the line of scrimmage.

Remember that Elway had a real low % his first year starting. Manning threw 28 ints his first year starting. If he were completing 51% after the end of next year then you would have an argument. But nothing in his past suggests that this will continue. He was always above or around 60% in college.

I personally hope Brunell's shoulder heals and he comes back. He will be more comfortable in Al's offense. But I would let Collins compete for the back-up job.

[EXoffender]

Not a tough schedule outside of the schedule. We've had sucess against NE and CHI. They shouldn't scare us. Whether shouldn't be a factor 8/07 vs NE and Briggs will have his revenge against his former team at home...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by EXoffender

Not a tough schedule outside of the schedule. We've had sucess against NE and CHI. They shouldn't scare us. Whether shouldn't be a factor 8/07 vs NE and Briggs will have his revenge against his former team at home...

Um...you lost me

[Campbell17]

I like our schedule this year because we start off with a very easy schedule, our hardest game before week 8 should be Monday Night v.s. the Eagles in Philly. I live in Jersey and my dad has season tickets for the eagles that he sells on stub-hub and goes to a few games. I will probably be at the game because we always get the 'skins games. We also have really good 'skins seats which we drive 3 hours to any chance we get and use a lot more than our eagles. I honestly think that we could be undefeted, going into week 8 v.s. the pats. Not to mention, we are a much better team down the stretch and a good start could boost us into the play-offs. The only bad part was that we don't get many easy games towards the end other than the Bills and Bucs.

[KLHJ2]

Did GW really F*** up the defense? If I remember correctly the majority of the defense was hurt most of last year. If anything injuries and Adam Archwhatever F***ed up the defense. Not GW.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by angryssg

Did GW really F*** up the defense? If I remember correctly the majority of the defense was hurt most of last year. If anything injuries and Adam Archwhatever F***ed up the defense. Not GW.

Seriously! That guy carried us through 04 and 05. If it werent for Greg Williams, we might have gone 2-14 in 2004. Our offense was that bad. We had terrible injuries, we couldnt stop the run and therefore really couldnt blitz the way GWilliams wants too. I mean I dont think anyone messed up that defesne, that thing was screwed from the start.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by angryssg

Did GW really F*** up the defense? If I remember correctly the majority of the defense was hurt most of last year. If anything injuries and Adam Archwhatever F***ed up the defense. Not GW.

I give GW a pass for last year. He's had two great years and one bad one. Let's be honest. If we had an average offense in 04 we make the playoffs. And the defense basically carried us the last half of 05. Hell the defense basically won the TB play-off game all by itself. Many things contributed to downfalls in 06. Let's see if some guys can play better and let's see if the FA's help out too.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I give GW a pass for last year. He's had two great years and one bad one. Let's be honest. If we had an average offense in 04 we make the playoffs. And the defense basically carried us the last half of 05. Hell the defense basically won the TB play-off game all by itself. Many things contributed to downfalls in 06. Let's see if some guys can play better and let's see if the FA's help out too.

Yeah, but what the offense did to us in 2004, the defense did to us last year. It was nearly identical in magnitude.

We've seen what we can do when we put good O and D toghether in 2005, so 2007 is really all up to our defense.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yeah, but what the offense did to us in 2004, the defense did to us last year. It was nearly identical in magnitude.

We've seen what we can do when we put good O and D toghether in 2005, so 2007 is really all up to our defense.

Well, the defense fell off the table last year, but the offense slipped too.

[Desmond Howard]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Thank you FRPLG for originally posting the schedule

Sep 9 Miami 1:00pm
Sep 17 @Philadelphia 8:30pm
Sep 23 N.Y. Giants 4:15pm
Week 4 BYE
Oct 7 Detroit 1:00pm
Oct 14 @Green Bay 1:00pm
Oct 21 Arizona 1:00pm
Oct 28 @New England 4:15pm
Nov 4 @N.Y. Jets 1:00pm
Nov 11 Philadelphia 1:00pm
Nov 18 @Dallas 1:00pm
Nov 25 @Tampa Bay 1:00pm
Dec 2 Buffalo 1:00pm
Dec 6 Chicago 8:15pm
Dec 16 @N.Y. Giants 8:15pm
Dec 23 @Minnesota 1:00pm
Dec 30 Dallas 1:00pm

I dont know...but just looking at our schedule and knowing our strengths I really believe that we can easily go 11-5!