Ted Nugent on Gun Control

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

All I have to say is that, JoeRedskin, you often have some of the most thoughtful, articulate, and interesting posts.

Awwwww, shucks. <kicks dirt>

[KLHJ2]

I believe that this is a better place to talk about gun control, rather than the Charlton Heston Thread.

[SmootSmack]

Good call angry

[JWsleep]

Glad to see this thread getting some new love...


Now we just need Joe Redskin to post another one them kick ass posts. And more Mullets!

Cat Scratch Fever! Duh duh duh! Cat Scratch Fever! Duh Duh Duh Duh! (Bangs head so mullet goes flying...) The Motor City Madman was the second concert I ever saw (on the "World Penetration" tour), at Meriwether-Post, and my ears are still ringing.

(Will pass on my regrets about C. Heston on the appropriate thread. Get yer hand off em, you damn dirty apes!)

[JoeRedskin]

The Supreme Court is considering a case that will likely become the leading case on how the Second Amendment is to be interpreted for years to come. Here's an article on the case:

FindLaw's Writ - Dorf: With the Supreme Court Poised to Redefine the Right to Bear Arms, Far-Reaching Questions Loom

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by dmek25

regardless of how you look at this, it is a political statement. the N.R.A funnels big time money into the republican party to make sure there is no such thing as any kind of gun control. remember a ways back, all the crying when assault rifles were banned? i still cant figure out what the heck any ordinary citizen would use an AK47 for.

Hunting and home protection, well more home protection than hunting. It's a hell of alot more accurate than a pistol.

Edit* On a more serious note, I do prefer rifles for home protection as opposed to pistols. While I might not use an AK-47, I do have an AR-15 which is a M-4 carbine (or a smaller version of the M-16). Excellent size and accuracy for close quarters home protection. Of course if you do not like the size of the 5.56mm round you can always get it modified to a 9mm round.

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[dmek25]

Originally Posted by angryssg

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Hunting and home protection, well more home protection than hunting. It's a hell of alot more accurate than a pistol.

what do you hunt with it? and are you being serious? im not being an ass, im just not sure if your joking

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by dmek25

what do you hunt with it? and are you being serious? im not being an ass, im just not sure if your joking

Read the edit.

[dmek25]

gun control, and gun owners rights, is a lame duck argument. very rarely can anyone get any kind of movement from either side of the debate. too me, its ridiculous to say more guns make the world a safer place. it just doesnt make sense

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by dmek25

gun control, and gun owners rights, is a lame duck argument. very rarely can anyone get any kind of movement from either side of the debate. too me, its ridiculous to say more guns make the world a safer place. it just doesnt make sense

Well, you're right, and you're wrong, it doesn't make our society a safer place. It makes the innocent safer because the guns are already in the hands of criminals and how are the innocent to defend themselves?
However, would you care to tell the US government to throw all their guns away and use, say, cats to defend this country?
The argument could be made to say knives make this country unsafe as well due to the MASSIVE amount of stabbings, and accidental cuts. Of course I'd love to see people try to cut their steak with a spoon, but whatever.

Again I will say, guns don't kill people, people kill people. Stop the evil people from doing evil things and you won't need to worry about guns. Of course that would be a feat unto itself.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by jsarno

However, would you care to tell the US government to throw all their guns away and use, say, cats to defend this country?
The argument could be made to say knives make this country unsafe as well due to the MASSIVE amount of stabbings, and accidental cuts. Of course I'd love to see people try to cut their steak with a spoon, but whatever.

I don't think that analogy holds water. But, if you want to compare people to states, do you think we should actively encourage the proliferation of nuclear arms on the theory that the more nations that have them the better? After all, "bad guys" like China have nukes.

Also, no offense, but I think the phrase "guns don't kill people, people do" adds little if anything of substance to the debate about gun control/rights.

Finally, I don't think the comparison of knives, cars, or anything else that can kill can be compared to guns. Knives and cars have a lot of practical uses that are perfectly good, legal, and necessary. Guns have very limited purposes. Guns are pretty much designed to kill and/or maim.

But, I realize I'm not going to change anyone else's opinion about the matter. I like firing weapons. I think hunting rifles and shotguns are fine. But, I also realize that some people have an emotional attachment to firing numerous small projectiles out of a steel tube at a high rate of speed and there's nothing I can do about it.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I don't think that analogy holds water. But, if you want to compare people to states, do you think we should actively encourage the proliferation of nuclear arms on the theory that the more nations that have them the better? After all, "bad guys" like China have nukes.

Hmmm, guns to nuclear arms. Yeah, that's a good comparison.

Also, no offense, but I think the phrase "guns don't kill people, people do" adds little if anything of substance to the debate about gun control/rights.

That's cause, no offense, but you don't get it. A gun has never, ever, ever killed someone on it's own. You don't walk into a room and see a gun sitting there on the counter and boom, you're dead.

Finally, I don't think the comparison of knives, cars, or anything else that can kill can be compared to guns. Knives and cars have a lot of practical uses that are perfectly good, legal, and necessary. Guns have very limited purposes. Guns are pretty much designed to kill and/or maim.

Knifes are meant to CUT / SLICE, I'm not saying that knives are as dangerous, but if used by the wrong people, it can be just as deadly.

But, I realize I'm not going to change anyone else's opinion about the matter. I like firing weapons. I think hunting rifles and shotguns are fine. But, I also realize that some people have an emotional attachment to firing numerous small projectiles out of a steel tube at a high rate of speed and there's nothing I can do about it.

ditto.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Hmmm, guns to nuclear arms. Yeah, that's a good comparison.

It's about as appropriate as your comparison of individuals to nations.

Originally Posted by jsarno

That's cause, no offense, but you don't get it. A gun has never, ever, ever killed someone on it's own. You don't walk into a room and see a gun sitting there on the counter and boom, you're dead.

What don't I get? How exactly does that add anything of substance to the gun rights debate? It doesn't and your response did nothing but reiterate the phrase.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, you're right, and you're wrong, it doesn't make our society a safer place. It makes the innocent safer because the guns are already in the hands of criminals and how are the innocent to defend themselves?
However, would you care to tell the US government to throw all their guns away and use, say, cats to defend this country?
The argument could be made to say knives make this country unsafe as well due to the MASSIVE amount of stabbings, and accidental cuts. Of course I'd love to see people try to cut their steak with a spoon, but whatever.

Again I will say, guns don't kill people, people kill people. Stop the evil people from doing evil things and you won't need to worry about guns. Of course that would be a feat unto itself.

I'm guessing you haven't heard of laser cats?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm guessing you haven't heard of laser cats?

Nice. That's got to be the post of the day.