Jerome Mathis signed

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I know you are new, but no need to call anyone an idiot.

He has been banned alredy Quake.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by angryssg

He has been banned alredy Quake.

Damn that was quick LOL What did he do?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by 1997Prelude

Hes a depth WR, maybe used for PR since Rock doens't do those. He probably signed a veteran minimum deal so if he F's up, a better WR becomes available or just cant produce on the field, they can cut him and not worry about it (no signing/roster bonus = no cap penalty if cut). Since Hackett and Caldwell signed elsewhere, they needed to fill in some depth at WR. Simple as that. Anyone waiting on a big FA signing and being dissappointed with this.... you are an idiot.

Wow...Jerome drives a '97 Honda. Definitely a disappointment.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

HA. True.

He must not be good enough for them.

[Stuck in TX]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

HA. True.

He must not be good enough for them.

In that case Chris Henry might be too good for them.

[DGreene28]

All I have to say is sometimes you don't get the whole story and things may be different then they seem...

For example. One of my good friends is in a domestic situation right now where he hasn't been able to see his kids all weekend due to his wife calling the cops on him last thursday. She said that he threw boiling water at her... I know this guy very, very well and he would never, ever do that.. he tells me that they were fighting at the dinner table and he got up and threw his plate in the sink. His 5 year old son tells it the same way.

Yet he was unable talk to his kids or sleep in his bed all weekend even though he was not charged with anything. I'm not saying that he didn't do anything wrong, they fight all the time and you shouldn't lose your temper like that... but it did not go down like she said and when all this shakes out who knows how this will look on his record.

[Bill B]

From what JLC said Mathis's contract is not too high and contains NO BONUS - so cap wise it has zero impact - plus it contains protection to the Skins in case of injury.....

Redskins Insider
Mathis Contract

Forgot to include this in the earlier post.
Mathis's 1 yr vet minimum deal came with no bonus - obviously in this case - and he could earn $520,000 if he makes it all 17 paychecks. The deal is "split" which means it has provisions that would allow the Skins to pay him less should he be placed on IR.
For those of you who believed DJ Hackett would have been the best solution to the Skins search for a young, tall receiver (or at least believed he was a talent worthy of at least a legit offer), here are the numbers on his deal, too:
Hackett got $750,000 to sign, the only guaranteed money in his two year deal. He could earn a max of $3.5 million over those two years.

[SeanTaylor21]

Originally Posted by Bill B

From what JLC said Mathis's contract is not too high and contains NO BONUS - so cap wise it has zero impact - plus it contains protection to the Skins in case of injury.....

Redskins Insider
Mathis Contract

Forgot to include this in the earlier post.
Mathis's 1 yr vet minimum deal came with no bonus - obviously in this case - and he could earn $520,000 if he makes it all 17 paychecks. The deal is "split" which means it has provisions that would allow the Skins to pay him less should he be placed on IR.
For those of you who believed DJ Hackett would have been the best solution to the Skins search for a young, tall receiver (or at least believed he was a talent worthy of at least a legit offer), here are the numbers on his deal, too:
Hackett got $750,000 to sign, the only guaranteed money in his two year deal. He could earn a max of $3.5 million over those two years.

Good to hear we didn't shell out big bucks for him.

[lwiedy]

Originally Posted by DGreene28

All I have to say is sometimes you don't get the whole story and things may be different then they seem...

For example. One of my good friends is in a domestic situation right now where he hasn't been able to see his kids all weekend due to his wife calling the cops on him last thursday. She said that he threw boiling water at her... I know this guy very, very well and he would never, ever do that.. he tells me that they were fighting at the dinner table and he got up and threw his plate in the sink. His 5 year old son tells it the same way.

Yet he was unable talk to his kids or sleep in his bed all weekend even though he was not charged with anything. I'm not saying that he didn't do anything wrong, they fight all the time and you shouldn't lose your temper like that... but it did not go down like she said and when all this shakes out who knows how this will look on his record.

Gee whiz, what a shock. I’m sorry that sound so cruel but your constant defense of such behavior must be routed in something personal.

Yes, I am very critical of bad behavior. But behavior (unless you are psychotic) is a choice and times I have had a overwhelming feelings of rage but the only thing that separates us from the animals is our ability to know that ACTING on our emotions in this way is wrong and should not be tolerated.

The constant rationalization of criminal behavior may not explain why it happens but it certainly explains why it happens so often.

I know you will ignore this or worse, turn it in to some sort of justification for your position, but maybe someday the light will go on for you, good luck.

[DGreene28]

Originally Posted by lwiedy

Gee whiz, what a shock. I’m sorry that sound so cruel but your constant defense of such behavior must be routed in something personal.

Yes, I am very critical of bad behavior. But behavior (unless you are psychotic) is a choice and times I have had a overwhelming feelings of rage but the only thing that separates us from the animals is our ability to know that ACTING on our emotions in this way is wrong and should not be tolerated.

The constant rationalization of criminal behavior may not explain why it happens but it certainly explains why it happens so often.

I know you will ignore this or worse, turn it in to some sort of justification for your position, but maybe someday the light will go on for you, good luck.

Ha, you are a real piece of work. I too believe violence towards women is unacceptable. I'm just trying to teach you a few things young padawan... Smart judgements you cannot make with knowing first all of the facts.

Mathis' girlfriend moved out of the state and dropped all the charges. If I'm going to take someone's word on this incident it is hers. I'm not going to try to be Sherlock Holmes and piece together how I think it all went down. And the example I gave above was NOT criminal behavior but a situation where a female can fabricate or embelish a situation for personal gain... There of course is the opposite end of the spectrum where a woman is in a violent relationship which is absolutely deplorable and in need of immediate attention from the authorities. However, we cannot be so quick to convict in the court of public opinion. Especially 1000 miles away, a month later after reading an article.

[DirteePosse]

C'mon, he's a hometown product, that's going to work out. Regardless of pay, he can play. Somebody call up Darnerian McCants.

[Stuck in TX]

pop a chill pill everybody!! geez its not like we signed this guy for seven years and $20 million. If it doesnt work out, we cut him. We cut our losses and just be glad it wasnt another Brandon Lloyd. He is here to return kicks and provide depth. If he was coming in as our #1 or even #3 guy I may have something to say. He is highly expendable and could lose his job to a draft pick. How many other players on our roster can you say that about? Wish the draft would hurry up and get here. this silence is going to cause everyone to kill each other.

[GTripp0012]

I think a point that hasn't been mentioned yet, is that at his age, Mathis still has the whole immaturity excuse. You don't often see this kind of thing happening to vets, it's often the guys younger than 25.

Now that he's a Redskin, and he's near the psychological full maturity age, we have a chance to see if the past is really, actually behind him, or if he's just a full blown turd.

If it's the latter, he won't have a long stay here.



Now, from a football perspective, I'm not sure what they see in him that makes him worth the trouble of a 2nd chance. It's a no risk contract, but he's also had his most valuable returner years elsewhere, and though he's really fast, that doesn't make him a good receiver.

This is a low risk, low reward move, and hopefully, he doesn't put the team through the minor inconvenience of releasing him for off field reasons.

[MTK]

Back to just the pure personnel aspect for a moment, I'm disappointed we didn't make a stronger run at DJ Hackett. JLC reports that he got $750k to sign with Carolina and he could earn a maximum of $3.5M over 2 years. I don't know about anyone else but to me that seems like a pretty reasonable deal. I hope that non-move on our part doesn't come back to haunt us.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Back to just the pure personnel aspect for a moment, I'm disappointed we didn't make a stronger run at DJ Hackett. JLC reports that he got $750k to sign with Carolina and he could earn a maximum of $3.5M over 2 years. I don't know about anyone else but to me that seems like a pretty reasonable deal. I hope that non-move on our part doesn't come back to haunt us.

Yeah I totally agree. I would have paid DJ Hackett a couple million a year, personally. I don't know how you can pass on a sizeable WR who has shown the ability to take over games when healthy and who is familiar with Zorn's offense. It's one thing if the Panthers gave him $8 million to sign or something. But I mean, what the hell?